Glad to read this old post, but sadly to see this scam is still going on. Please see below email I've got just recently. Anyone who got this story please google first.
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Subject: Re: HOMESTAY
From: abbeyping@gmail.com
Hello ,
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good family and that's while I went for your home. I have no doubts in my mind she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $850 is good for a month.
I love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Jie will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, your home resident address with zip code and phone number which I will send to Mr.Anthony Didier who will contact you for other arrangements. Jie as I said is coming on the 15th of February and leave on the 15th June, 2016. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Ping Abbey.
Address: No.23, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100027, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Abbey my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Jie Abbey. I will send her picture by next week.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Ms. Ping.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 21:03:24 +0100
Subject: Re: HOMESTAY
From: abbeyping@gmail.com
Hello,
Thanks for your respond. She will be coming on the 15th of February and leave on the 15th of June, 2016. Mr.Anthony Didier will handle the payment for us since he reside in Canada. Mr.Anthony is a long time family friend. I contacted him about Jie moving to Canada to learn how to speak and write English language, he said its a nice move and promised to assist us with the arrangements. Initially, I wanted to send Jie to Mr.Anthony's home but since his going through a divorce, I thought it's not right to send her there any more and he and the wife understands very well and promised to assist us. Kindly let me know what your price is like for 2 meals (Breakfast and Dinner), My main worry is for my daughter to stay with a good lovely home. I hope your home will provide her the kind of atmosphere she need.
I have done my best as a single Mom to raise Jie up as nice young promising girl and you will love her trust me. She will be going to a language school, but I have also told her that am going to seek for your advice on any other good school close to your home, Can you help her to enroll when she comes over? Please note that her English speaking is very slow and for this I allowed her to visit my step-sister in England, I want her English to improve before coming Canada. She will move from England to your home I hope you will assist her.
Jie is 19 years old. I want her to grown just as the Chinese economy is growing. I want Jie to be ready.
I await your reply.
Regards,
Ms Ping
I guess same people started playing same game with me. To much writing for a simple request doesn't make sense at all to me. I will shut them down. Thanks everyone for sharing scam stories.
See the scam email below:
Hello ,
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good family and that's while I went for your home. I have no doubts in my mind she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $850 is good for a month.
I love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Jie will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, your home resident address with zip code and phone number which I will send to Mr.Anthony Didier who will contact you for other arrangements. Jie as I said is coming on the 15th of February and leave on the 15th June, 2016. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Ping Abbey.
Address: No.23, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100027, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Abbey my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Jie Abbey. I will send her picture by next week.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Ms. Ping.
This is the same scam as
From: Li Zhang (lizhang406@gmail.com)
Sent: June-24-15 12:39:27 AM
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good family and that's while I went for your home. I have no doubts in my mind she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $950 is good for a month.
I love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Ning will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, your home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr.Pierre Didier who will contact you for other arrangements. Ning as I said is coming on the 15th of July and leave on the 13th of November, 2015. Can You pick her up from the airport? But if not no worries she can the taxi to your home.
Below is my information's
Name: Li Zhang.
Address: No.23, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100027, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Abbey my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Ning Huang. I will send her picture by next week.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Ms. Li.
Hi All....I too received a message in a site called Hire Home Stay that uses the email linhaung025@gmail.com We messaged back and forth a bit until he/she/they gave me her so-called personal info. using the same phone #+447-045-733552. After google searching it I found your post. THANK YOU to all.
So she/he/they are still at it, using similar dialogue.
Here is the info. she uses and yes she still says she is deaf and that is the reason for the other persons # and not being able to speak to you directly:
Name: Lin Huang.
Address: No.23, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100027, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Abbey my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
She says her daughter's name's are: Ning Huang. I will send her picture by next week.
I got the same emails from "Ms.Li" for her daughter "Ning".
Their family friend's name is "Pierre Didier" now.
The email address is lizhang406@gmail.com
I'm in BC, Canada
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Name: Li Zhang.
Address: No.23, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100027, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Abbey my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Ning Huang. I will send her picture by next week.
Heads up these guys are still active! Glad I came across this thread.
I received the exact same emails but the names were different Thanks to all for posting this scam.
Here are the emails I received:
Hello ,
Thanks for your respond. She will be coming on the 10th of May and leave on the 13th September, 2014. Mr. Alex Wood, will handle the payment for us since he reside in Canada. Mr.Alex is a long time family friend. I contacted him about Wei moving to Canada for her studies, he said its a nice idea and promised to help us out with the arrangement. Initially, I wanted to send Wei to Mr. Alex's home but since his going through a divorce, I thought it's not right to send her there and he and his wife understands very well and promised to assist us out. Kindly let me know what your price is like for 2 meals (Breakfast and Dinner), My main worry is for my daughter to stay with a good lovely home. I hope your home will provide her the kind of atmosphere she need.
God has helped me to raise Wei up in His way so she is a nice young girl and you will love her I assure you. She will be going to a language school,there are two schools which she's presently talking with but I have also asked her that am going to seek for your advice for us on any good school close to your home, Can you help her to enroll when she comes over? Please note that her English speaking is very slow and for this I allowed her to visit my step-sister in England, I want her English to improve a bite before coming to your home. She will move from England to your home I pray you will assist her.
Wei is 19 years old. Here in China if you can speak and write English you will have a very good job as the economy is growing everyday . I want Wei to be ready, and to give her my best now because she is all I have.
I await your reply.
Regards,
Ms Wenling.
and then:
Hello ,
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for your home. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts in my mind she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $800 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Wei will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, your home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr. Alex Wood who will contact you for other arrangements. Wei as I said is coming on the 10th of May and leave on the 13th September, 2014 Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Wenling Young.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Wei Young, I still keep my ex last name because of Wei. I will send her picture before week runs off.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Ms. Wenling.
Continue to post the email that I've received from this scam:
Sorry for the late in reply my dear. How are you and your family? Am so glad that my Hua will be staying with a good home and you are going to be a nice mom to her. I have told Hua a lot about your family and she's very please and cannot wait to meet with her new family.
I just came in now and will be out again after sending you this e-mail. I did a lot regarding grammar's burial which came up on the 12th of February . Am the only person doing all the arrangements for the burial. Grammar have only two children my Mom and his brother Bojing which we have not heard from over 9years now so am just alone.
I got an e-mail from Mr.Wade about the overage which is $1,455 Our agreed price was $850 per month which is $3,400 for the 4 months. I have asked Mr.Wade to loan me the money which he has agreed to, you can call him to confirm. Though in his last e-mail he told me he will be going on vacation.
Hua told me she have no money on her at all and I have no money to send to her right now as I have a lot to do here that involve money for grammar's burial, and I spent a lot on grammar's hospital bills. I told her I will talk to you. I am wondering if you can send her $1,500 from the amount Mr. Wade sent to you so she can pay some bills, flight ticket, do some shopping and have some cash on her to move around with when she comes over till I settle down after the burial, I promise you I will make up the balance within her first month with you. Her welcome is over stayed in UK , I know what am talking about.
No worries for the money all I need now is for Hua to move on to her new home which is your home and like you know I have spent a lot here and just asking you to assist me by giving her the 1500$ I promised I will pay you back the 245$ within her first month with you please. She wants to come even before the 13th as she is not happy any more there in UK.
Please I will really appreciate if you can send her the $1,500 via Money Gram to the below information's she sent to me today. She said Money Gram is just a stone throw from their home and she have a friend there who will assist her.
Below is the information's she sent me:
Name: Chelsea Shaw.
Address: 138 Liverpool Road Liverpool L36 3RH, United Kingdom
Sender's Names/Address:
Reference Numbe:
Amount sent:
For this Homestay overpayment fraud, there's a man called me last week and got information for the certified chq he claimed. I've checked his number and it's from a land line in Vancouver:
(604)568-0015
OMG! I've just found that I'm in the same scam like you had. Here is the email I got:
Hello ,
Thanks for your respond. She will be coming on the 15th of February and leave on the 13th June, 2014. Also we are going to make full payment for the 4 months, I don't want Hua to have money problem when she is with you. Mr. Wade Carter will handle the payment for us since he reside in Canada. Mr.Wade is a long time family friend. I contacted him about Hua moving to Canada for her studies, he said its a nice idea and promised to help us out with the arrangement. Initially, I wanted to send Hua to Mr. Wade's home but since his going through a divorce, I thought it's not right to send her there and he and his wife understands very well and promised to assist us out. Kindly let me know what your price is like for 2 meals (Breakfast and Dinner), My main worry is for my daughter to stay with a good lovely home. I hope your home will provide her the kind of atmosphere she need.
God has helped me to raise Hua up in His way so she is a nice young girl and you will love her I assure you. She will be going to a language school,there are two schools which she's presently talking with but I have also asked her that am going to seek for your advice for us on any good school close to your home, Can you help her to enroll when she comes over? Please note that her English speaking is very slow and for this I allowed her to visit my step-sister in England, I want her English to improve a bite before coming to your home. She will move from England to your home I pray you will assist her.
Hua is 19 years old. Here in China if you can speak and write English you will have a very good job as the economy is growing everyday . I want Hua to be ready, and to give her my best now because she is all I have.
I await your reply.
Regards,
Ms Biyu.
Next email:
Hello,
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for your home. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts in my mind she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $850 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Hua will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, your home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr. Wade Carte who will contact you for other arrangements. Hua as I said is coming on the 15th of February and leave on the 13th June, 2014. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Biyu Abbey.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Hua Abbey, I still keep my ex last name because of Hua. I will send her picture by next week.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Ms. Biyu
My opinion is that 90% of the time, those scams come from Nigeria (it's a big business there as the scammers don't only target teachers but they target lots of victims including widows who go to match.com to look for a husband...). If Nigeria does not collaborate with the international community to put an end to this business (the government could, through IP addresses), there is not much that the international community can do.
thanks already check with the bank...check still on hold no funds were taken out of the check. They keep doing this to people all of time why is it the police don't catch up with them ?
Elaine: It IS a scam. A typical one.
You might have to pay some fees to your bank when the check does not clear; might be good to check with your bank and stop the process.
I have been dealing with this mess for the last month they also gave me a cheque to deposited but has not cleared yet. No mention of when the daughter is coming to stay August 15 was the first date and they changed it to August 10 now. Grammar died, daughter has no money but never any mention of when the daughter is coming to Canada no date now and no flight number. They tell me i need to send 1,000 to daughter in the UK so she can make her way to my house. Looks like a scam to me. I have put the money into my account already almost a week ago but it still has not cleared. They keep calling me for money but i am not sending any. The man that send me the cheque from Alberta and the mother is from China the daughter is in the UK and now they want me to send the money to someone in the UK by the name of Susan. At first the daughter was coming from the UK for 4months and they wanted to pay me up front so they did by cheque but they gave me around 1000 to much on it so now they want me to mail that money back to them. Watch out looks like a scam to me
The email that we received is below, I responded by stating that I would accept only bonded bank cashiers cheques that I would hold for a minimum of one month to clear. I have not gotten a reply. It sounds like the same scam with different names but the phone number is the same.
Here it is:
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for your home. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts in my mind she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $750 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Wen will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, your home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr.Walter Kamara who will contact you for other arrangements. Wen as I said is coming on the 15th of August and leave on the 15th December, 2013. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Ms Wenling Young.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Wen Young, I still keep my ex last name because of Wen. I will send her picture before the week runs off.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Ms Wenling.
Had a funny feeling so I googled their address and I found this forum. Here are their emails to my agency.
FIRST EMAIL:
On March 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM Lin Cheung <lincheung57@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello,
My name is Lin Cheung. I will like to know if you have a home stay available to host my daughter. She is coming to US to learn English language.
Kindly get back to me if you have any available.
Regards,
Lin.
SECOND EMAIL:
> On March 14, 2013 at 2:00 AM Lin Cheung <lincheung57@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello ,
>
> Thanks for your respond. She will be coming on the 13th of April and leave on the 14th August, 2013. Also we are going to make full payment for the 4 months, I don't want Lu to have money problem when she is with you. Mr.Scott Douglas will handle the payment for us since he reside in Alberta-Canada. Mr.Scott is a long time family friend.I have contacted him about Lu moving to US for her studies, he said its a nice idea and promised to help us out with the arrangement. Initially, I wanted to send Lu to Mr. Scott's home in Alberta-Canada but since his going through a divorce, I thought it's not right to send her there and he understand perfectly well and promised to assist us out. Kindly let me know what your price is like for 2 meals (Breakfast and Dinner), My main worry is for my daughter to stay with a good lovely home. I hope your home will provide her the kind of atmosphere she need.
>
>
> God has helped me to raise Lu up in His way so she is a nice young girl and you will love her I assure you. She will be going to a language school,there are two schools which she's presently talking with but I have also asked her that am going to seek for your advice for us on any good school close to your home, Can you help her to enroll when she comes over? Please note that her English speaking is very slow and for this I allowed her to visit my step-sister in England, I want her English to improve a bite before coming to your home. She will move from England to your home I pray you will assist her.
>
>
> Lu is 19 years old. Here in China if you can speak and write English you will have a very good job as the economy is growing everyday . I want Lu to be ready, and to give her my best now because she is all I have.
>
> I await your reply.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lin.
THIRD EMAIL:
Hello,
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for your home. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $1.100 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Lu will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr.Scott Douglas who will contact you for other arrangements. Lu as I said is coming on the 13th of April and leave on the 14th August, 2013. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Lin Cheung.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Lu Cheung, I still keep my ex last name because of Lu. I will send her picture by next week.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Lin.
The next step is that they would ask you for a Western Union transfer of money regarding the alleged processing of your work visa. It's often in the range of US$800-900.
And if the victim pays, then they come back and ask for another money transfer regarding some other visa requirement.
Eventually, when they realize they can't get any more money from the victim, they just stop responding to emails.
I got the same scam email. I don't know what the scam is trying achieve, but it is annoying. See:
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Hello ,
Thanks for your respond. She will be coming on the 20th of February and leave on the 20th June, 2013. Also we are going to make full payment for the 4 months, I don't want Lu to have money problem when she is with you. Mr.Scott Douglas will handle the payment for us since he reside in Alberta-Canada. Mr.Scott is a long time family friend.I have contacted him about Lu moving to Canada for her studies, he said its a nice idea and promised to help us out with the arrangement. Initially, I wanted to send Suki to Mr. Scott's home in Alberta-Canada but since his going through a divorce, I thought it's not right to send her there and he understand perfectly well and promised to assist us out. Kindly let me know what your price is like for 2 meals (Breakfast and Dinner), My main worry is for my daughter to stay with a good lovely home. I hope your home will provide her the kind of atmosphere she need.
God has helped me to raise Lu up in His way so she is a nice young girl and you will love her I assure you. She will be going to a language school,there are two schools which she's presently talking with but I have also asked her that am going to seek for your advice for us on any good school close to your home, Can you help her to enroll when she comes over? Please note that her English speaking is very slow and for this I allowed her to visit my step-sister in England, I want her English to improve a bite before coming to your home. She will move from England to your home I pray you will assist her.
Lu is 19 years old. Here in China if you can speak and write English you will have a very good job as the economy is growing everyday . I want Lu to be ready, and to give her my best now because she is all I have.
I await your reply.
Regards,
Suling.
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Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for your home. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $850 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Lu will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr.Scott Douglas who will contact you for other arrangements. Lu as I said is coming on the 20th of February and leave on the 20th of June, 2013. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Lin Cheung.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Lu Cheung, I still keep my ex last name because of Lu. I will send her picture by next week.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Lin.
Same scam...
Name: Lihua Longwei.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Biyu Longwei,
This is what the scammers are saying. she saw my profile on Easyroommates, I made statement that I am a christian that is why she is praying. I also have a 6 year old that was mentioned as well on my profile. they try to use your weakes link to get you. Be very mindfull, any thing you are not sure of always research on google that is what I did, I copy their number and searched on google it brought me to this sight. See below the email they sent to me.
Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for your home. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $470 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Jun will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr.Scott Douglas who will contact you for other arrangements. Jun as I said is coming on the 19th of October and leave on the 19th February, 2013. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Lung Choy.
Address: No.34, West Dawang Road, Chaoyang District,Beijing, China,100022, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Jun Choy, I still keep my ex last name because of Jun. I will send her picture before the week runs out.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Lung.
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fung <lung.choy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: room for rent.
The latest email address that they use is shuchunbingwen@yahoo.com. I received exactly same message but mother's name is Shuchun, daughter Ning Bingwen and Toronto contact Mr Owen Logan.
The new email that they are using is: "Liling Chung liling.chung@yahoo.com
hello everyone,
i just got this email with exactly the same wording, with name: Ting Dong and her daughter Hua, i have seen this kind of scam a lot, so i checked it out at google and find this discussion. H. Winarko, Coquitlam BC
Well, you seem the most recent. We have an email with the exact same wording, but our student is Zan Deshi and the deaf mother is Biyu Deshi. No money has been given or received..... We are in Victoria, BC.
We are getting the same offer of 4 months advance homestay for "Jim Chu", daughter of a deaf woman named Janet Chu from Beijing. We have tried to call "Young" to verify things, but someone picks up and then hangs up. We don't know how the scam works yet because they have not asked us for money.
I'm glad you're reporting them to yahoo - we did the same thing when they approached us a few months back. I think yahoo shut down that particular account. Doesn't stop them opening another one, but I like to imagine that it really annoys them to have lost all the e-mail correspondence in the closed account - and it pleases me to think of all the people who have a lucky escape as a consequence :-)
Unfortunately there must be people out there who don't realise until it's too late that this is a scam, which means that the scammers are making enough money off this to continue. But if we all report them as much as possible, eventually it will not be worth their while, especially if more and more people find this site and are aware that it's just a horrid scam.
I'm so glad I found this site before I answered her email! I got the same letter exactly, but the email address it came from was cheng.meifeng@yahoo.com and the contact person's name was Frank Anderson. I thought the letter sounded kind of suspicious, like the Nigerian scam, so I looked up her contact information before I answered the letter with my contact information. I am going to contact yahoo about that email address right now. I hope they catch these guys!!
We reported this scam to yahoo a few weeks ago as ''Mr Park'' and the mother (previously ''Meifeng Cheng'') were using yahoo addresses.
I urge you to report anything this to the e-mail provider immediately (whether it is yahoo still or another provider). You didn't mention the e-mail address they're currently using, but I'm hoping that yahoo did shut down the previous address which was parkt10@yahoo.com
The only way to slow down / stop these people is to raise awareness of their scam and to get their e-mail addresses shut down by reporting them for their fraudulent activities and the fact that they're using yahoo (or whoever) for the purpose. If we all do this as soon as they try to scam us, then maybe it will prevent others from being scammed and deter the damn scammers from wasting our time.
The same crap to me. They contacted me and tell me the same stories. I experience enough to know that was a scam. They think that everybody are stupid. But we are not, we just have a problem is trusting people and too nice to them.
"Thanks again for your reply, and how are you? Like I said my really worry is for her to be with a good home and that's while I went for a Mother. I prayed very well before I contacted you and I have no doubts she will be happy staying with you. I have not done this before it's my first time and with you. I asked a friend of mine who have done this for her son and she told me that $900 is good for a month.
I would have love to talk to you on the phone but I have a hearing problem Feng will tell you more of it when she comes over. Please I will like to know how many members of your family that's presently staying with you. Sorry if I have to ask this.
Also kindly forward to me the total cost for the 4 months, your full name, home resident address and phone number which I will send to Mr.Williams Cheng who will contact you for other arrangements. Feng as I said is coming on the 10th of May and leave on the 10th of September, 2011. Can You pick her up from the airport?
Below is my information's
Name: Fung Wu.
Address: Building 4, Nan Sanlitun Road , Chao Yang District, Beijing , 100000, CHINA .
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
Her name's are: Feng Wu , I still keep my ex last name because of Feng. I will send her picture before the week runs off.
I await your reply and have a lovely day.
Fung"
OMG! We got the EXACT same message! I was supposed to pick up "Lui Cheng" at the airport this Sunday! It wasn't until Meifeng Cheng (her alleged mother) asked me to send Lui Cheng $3000 from the $4000 that Tom Park sent me! Wow! That is crazy!!! I am in shock that people would do such a thing.
Re-posting, as I accidentally deleted my previous post
I came across this thread while looking for ESL shops online in Halifax, NS (we're based in Nova Scotia).
OMG!
We too almost fell for this, albeit we really thought it was all a bit of a scam by this point. I got exactly the same e-mails from the 'mother', who now uses the name Meifeng Cheng. Her daughter is 'Lui Cheng'. She asked her contact in Toronto, Tom Park, to arrange the homestay agreement - starting this Saturday for 4 months.
We already thought it was completely odd that the mother didn't seem too interested in finding out much about us. She also never looked at our website (we use Google Analytics so can see website visitor info such as country, language etc.). We also thought it was odd that they wanted to send a cheque instead of a bank transfer. My husband (who spoke to 'Tom Park', after he said he tried to leave a message for us and could we call him back) thought it strange that the guy said he lived in the west end of Toronto, yet when we checked the number later, it came up as a central Toronto suburb. Then the mother didn't reply to any of my e-mails. Then Tom Park didn't know where we were based and got the alleged arrival date mixed up. Lots of strange little things that were sending off warning signals, and then I came across this thread.
Our names and business address are public knowledge as this info is on our website, and we haven't received the cheque yet, so I'm hopeful that no lasting damage has been done, except for the cost of the phone call. We'll send all info to the police anyway.
I can't believe people waste their lives - and ours - with stupid scams like this.
good let Mr. Park call you so he can waste his money just try to keep him on an international call for a long period .. That may stop the crap ha ha ha ha
I have them trying to scam me now, She is saying she is from China and her daughter Howin needs our help she is hard of hearing and gives Mr Park as the name of the person that will contact me and send me a check for 4 months. It is a scam and they change their names all the time but have the same story!! My letter was the same as below with a little extra because of my questions back at them. Jiahui Bohia is the person contacting people now. They send youmore than the 4 months in money to luck sincere but they are bad company checks even real companies but bad checks!!
They gave me this info and then Mr Park calls you.
Jiahui Bohia
Address: Building 4, Nan Sanlitun Road, Chao Yang District, Beijing, 100000, CHINA.
Phone: +447-045-733552.(Note that this is Young my cousin cell number he will always get across to me)
She gives this info because she says she is deaf.LOL scammers!!
Just saw your e-mail. You may already have the info; the telephone number is in Toronto. You can pay a fee to get the actual address.
For future reference, plug in 'reverse telephone number' in the search box. The system will verify the number with the town where it is located, but not the listed name or street address unless you pay. Good luck.
I am so glad that I searched the web prior to doing anything. I received an inquiry from a Maggie Villa and the name Älex Lutter was mentioned. What exactly happened to you? I am so fearful of these things!!! Hope to hear from you soon.
Here's the message I received:
Hello Abigail,Thanks for your respond. l think your price $775 is fine with me for 2 meals (Breakfast and Dinner), my main worry is for her to stay with a lovely home. I know your home will give her the kind of environment she need.
She will be coming on the 10th of April and leave on the 10th of August, 2009. Also we are going to pay up front. Mr.Alex Lutter will handle the payment for us since he reside in Canada. Alex is a long friend of my family I contacted him to help us out with the payment and he agreed though as a loan.
God has help me to rise her up in His way so she is a nice girl and you will love her I promise you. She will be going to a language school and has two schools which she is looking at,and when she comes over she will make up her mind and I pray you will assist her, Or you can advice us on a close school to your home.
Let me hear from you.
Regards,
Maggie.
I too was contacted by this THIEVING ALEX LUTTER!!!! I was luckier than the lady from Richmond. I refused to send them any monies. I have called the RCMP also, but who knows if it will help catch this SCUM BAG.
To whom it may concern,
My wife and I were victims of this scam run by Alex Lutter, Paula Torris or Paula Deigo or Alameda Deigo from Canada. We lost money in same fashion. This Alex Lutter may be the master mind of this scam and may be working alone. I called this Alex guy several times asking him what's going on. He would hang up on me in the middle of conversation. Yes, he does answer his phone. If anyone out there knows any law authories or FBI who is aware of this scammer, please see if his phone can be traced and located so the law enforcement can take proper action. Us Homestay families are good people trying to help young people who wants to come to America and study English and all levels of education in this country. This is a serious crime and most of all, this will hurt young people who wants to study and enjoy freedom provide by this country. This also will scare many good, kind and loving family from Homestay program. Here's an address of this scammer (this address may not be authentic): 2437 Finch Ave. West, Notth York ON M9M 2E7 phone: 1-647-830-2176...I will continue doing research on this issue and hopely, find out our more information for you and law enforcements. Sincerely,
Peter Voelker
They are in the process of trying to scam us. We thought the thing had Nigerian scam written all over it; it just didn't feel right.
Sent a really good forgery of a check from
Prevention Services, LLC
725 Skippack Pike
#300
Blue Bell, PA 19422
Check #13619
Same cell phone number listed in previous post.
I found the previous post in a Google search of the cell phone number figuring that he has tried to scam someone else before.
I too was a victim of so called Paula Torres{daughter in Atlanta Georgia}, Alex Lutter{family friend in Toronto who loaned the money| and Charity Torres{ mother in Ireland} who's granma died in the middle of all these commotion. I fell for all scenarios , I lost $2500.00 plus 72 dollars service charge by Western Union. After I send the 2500, they have the nerve to ask for more remaining money leaving me only less than the 1 month rent agreed upon... that's when the alarm bell went on but it's too late I already sent the 2500 to Atlanta... Everthing is exactly the same word for word on the emails, just changing the names. I will try to go RCMP today and file a complaint I just hope they can help & catch these people. I learned my lesson the hard way, all these happen just last Tuesday Dec.16,2008 when I sent the money thru western union. Iam not aware of these scam until I told my daughter and she googled this site, that's when I KNEW I GOT SCAMMED. The cheque for $4490 has not come back yet from the bank but for sure it will be by next week....there goes my christmas presents for everbody or my vacation money for the coming new year. Meg of Richmond BC
You may well be aware of the scam perpetrated on "Linda" who has posted a message of this nature on these forums.
I too was victim to this scam (although, I never did lose the money). I just want to reiterate the details of this person;
-money order/cashiers cheque is sent printed on real cheque stock (but you can see it was printed by household laser printer - nothing is formatted or lined up correctly, but he could still fool you!)
-has a local contact in Canada named "Sean Matthews"
-may be using cell phone #647 830 2176
-may request you to send the payment to Sean in Toronto, at a PO box who's postal code is the "glen garry" neighborhood in Toronto (google the postal code)
-has a grandma that died
-mother uses excessive religious references
-daughter is staying in the US with undisclosed people, and is not happy where she is
-mother has a "hearing problem" and cannot use the phone
-mother claims to be living in ireland, but of spanish decent
-mother escessively praises your assistance, house, family, etc.
-scammer sends many requests or will call very often to check if you've received the payment (because there is a short time frame between you sending the money and the cheque bouncing so he wants to ensure that he get's to you before you go to the bank
-Using a spanish name "Carmela Godina" "Catilena Diego" etc.. etc.. with a yahoo email address.
-is using email services and hosting sites in Africa to access his yahoo email account. If you cheque the IP on the email address, you can see the origination is in Africa.
I called the police in Surrey, Police in Toronto, Federal fraud agencies, no one really gives a damn - especially if you don't get caught in the scam, because no fraud has actually been commited at that point.
I told "Sean" that the police were waiting for him at his P.O. Box in Glen Garry.. he seemed suprised that i knew where it was, and by the fact that I knew UPS doesn't make money orders. Hopefully this will stop him from retreiving other cheques sent to his post office box, and others may be saved from him.
-Kyle in Surrey, BC.