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ROXYINCHINA - 2015-08-05

Why does what Enfly does makes me angry?
First and foremost, because Enfly lets non-native speakers teach on tourist visas. Last but not least, because that agent cheats many of its 200+ foreign teachers by paying them basement wages.

Unlike the likes of Yuncheng agents, Enfly is bigtime. It supplies schools throughout Sichuan province with FTs, very different from Yuncheng agents, who only supply the Yuncheng area with FTs.

In Antonio's case, he was offered a paltry 5000 a month mainly because of his age. Certainly not because of his excellent English pronunciation and fluency! In the case of the two non-natives, they were offered 5500 a month each, which I thought was reasonable because non-natives generally have worse English than native speakers. But Enfly adopts bait and switch tactics with non-natives. Enfly tells them at first they can work on Z visas. However, in the end Enfly tells them they must work on tourist visas, and that none of their FTs in that category have ever been found out! That would be of no consolation whatever to the first one to be arrested, or to others in the same boat as a result of an immigration raid!

Enfly should be paying native speakers 6500 - 7500 a month according to age, qualifications and experience. This is fair because Enfly does not have to bear the cost of providing its FTs with TAs, as none is supplied, and also because Enfly can make savings due to economies of scale.
What's more, Enfly should not hire any non-native speakers unless it can be done properly, ie with Z visa and the appropriate Residence Permit.

I reckon that ENFLY is cheating each of its FTs out of at least 1000 a month on salaries alone. You multiply that by 200, and the figure is 200000 a month. Of course this does not apply during the two major holiday periods of each academic year because the FTs get no holiday pay at those times. The business model in Sichuan is the same as that in Yuncheng. Each student pays around 300 for the academic year for the FT's class to the school. The school pays the agent, Enfly. The agent pays its FTs.

ENFLY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE IN THE WAY THAT IT DOES!

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China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Corah -- 2012-06-01
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Jae Yang -- 2015-07-21
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- toum_kro@hotmail.com -- 2016-09-02
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Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Former FT in China -- 2016-09-20
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Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Camron -- 2018-03-29
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Barnum J. Bailey -- 2018-03-29
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Miztiza -- 2018-05-23
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Dr. Turnoi Turjakuunnen -- 2018-05-23
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Corah -- 2018-03-29
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Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- San Migs -- 2016-09-03
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Jae Yang -- 2016-06-17
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- P.T. Barnum -- 2016-06-17
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Johnboy -- 2016-06-18
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Re: Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Kenneth -- 2016-07-17
Re: Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- me -- 2018-03-29
Re: Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- FTinPRC -- 2018-03-29
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Wu Hong Tao -- 2014-04-17
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- What? -- 2015-04-26
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- San Migs -- 2015-04-27
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Corah -- 2014-04-17
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Wu Hong Tao -- 2014-04-18
Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Terrible experience -- 2015-01-06
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Re China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- What? -- 2015-04-28
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- What? -- 2015-01-08
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Donatus -- 2012-06-03
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Donatus -- 2012-06-03
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Stephen -- 2012-11-19
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- San Migs -- 2012-06-03
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- All*About*Helen -- 2012-06-02
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- ANTONIO HARRISON -- 2015-08-03
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- San Migs -- 2015-08-03
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- martin hainan -- 2015-08-03
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- ANTONIO HARRISON -- 2015-08-05
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- ANTONIO HARRISON -- 2015-08-05
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- San Migs -- 2015-08-05
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- ROXYINCHINA -- 2015-08-03
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Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Mike Dunn -- 2013-11-12
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Thomas Robertson -- 2013-02-26
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Thomas Robertson -- 2013-02-28
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Re Thank you Thomas -- karma -- 2015-01-14
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Re: Thank you Thomas -- Thomas Robertson -- 2013-04-10
Re: Thank you Thomas -- Pazuzu -- 2013-04-10
Re: Thank you Thomas -- John -- 2013-04-10
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- John -- 2013-04-08
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Dragonized -- 2013-02-27
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- John O’Shei -- 2013-02-27
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Dragonized -- 2013-02-27
China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Kang Youwei -- 2012-06-04
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Magister -- 2012-06-05
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Kang Youwei -- 2012-06-05
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Henkish -- 2012-12-14
Re: China Tefl Network Helen Group, Hangzhou, urgent warning! -- Kandedong -- 2012-06-02
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