School and Recruiter Reviews

Dodgy work visa and Scam school franchise from EDISON YE, Shanghai EET or MAJOR ENGLISH -- Paul -- 5 September 2010

BE VERY CAREFUL OF EDISON YE, Shanghai/Songjiang. EET Songjiang, MAJOR ENGLISH scam franchise, Ping Cheng teaching visas for sale. Ping Cheng is a bankrupt school for teaching Japanese. To use a work ...

RAJESH SEHGAL AND SHAOXING INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL -- ADRIAN KEEFE -- 4 September 2010

Some months ago, out of the blue, after I had posted my resume on ESLTEACHERSBOARD, Rajesh Sehgal contacted me and without ado offered me the job as Principal/DOS/Administrator of the Shaoxing ...

Re: RAJESH SEHGAL AND SHAOXING INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL -- Turnoi -- 5 September 2010

...but I was due to fly to Shaoxing this coming Wednesday, and I had not been given my air flight ticket number by Rajesh. I emailed a few times and eventually, late last night, Rajesh emailed me to ...

Re: RAJESH SEHGAL AND SHAOXING INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL -- American Teacher -- 4 September 2010

I am so sorry to hear your story. I thought it was bad getting messed over, after a month of promises at the school I was suppose to work at. But, it seems you were strung along for a longer period ...

Re: RAJESH SEHGAL AND SHAOXING INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL -- Ivan Milat -- 4 September 2010

I also express my sorrow to you. This sounds pretty bad. Terrible to lie to someone like that. Thanks for the heads up though. Forewarned is forearmed.

Re: RAJESH SEHGAL AND SHAOXING INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL -- Turnoi -- 5 September 2010

I am Christian, but I think all religions would tend to agree that there is a special place in the "after life" for people like that. One thing I believe, it will be a crowded place. Rajesh Sehgal is ...

Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 4 September 2010

Sorry to burst any bubbles here but I have no choice but to defend EF Changchun . First of all , they keep their word on the contract . Not once have I had to argue about anything or fight for what ...

Re: EF Changchun -- englishgibson -- 5 September 2010

Chris, I am with you. Some EFs have pro contracts (copied from the foreign company), and some even keep their words. What you don't realize is that these contracts are often to facilitate the ...

Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 4 September 2010

I am sure that after your unfounded praise of crappy EF in Changchun, all newbies will flock to this wonderful place. How about the rats in your apartment they have given you? Are they there for you ...

Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 4 September 2010

Uh... you're not paying attention are you ? Obviously it's not unfounded and actually , just because this is a school review doesn't mean it has to be negative . Whatever your experience ...

Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 5 September 2010

There are no rats in my apartment (since the apartment is only a couple of years old that seems a little unlikely don't you think ? ) If there are no rats in your apartment (as you claim), it may ...

Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 5 September 2010

EF Hater , You're kidding me right ? Are you really so childish that the best you can come up with as a retort is a juvenile ad hominem that would be mocked for it's lack of creativity by 2nd ...

Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 5 September 2010

Oh , and one more thing : The local staff here are kind and have all gone out of their way to help the foreigners even when the foreigners have been precocious and lazy . Before I came here to EF ...

plz inform the readers of caleb.intl@yahoo.com -- saraq -- 2 September 2010

hi, i was offered a place at caleb international university. Lagos, Nigeria. That recruiting agency is asking for $350 in advance and in spite of apprehensions towards them they were constantly ...

Re: plz inform the readers of caleb.intl@yahoo.com -- Chengdu CT -- 3 September 2010

This is going to be a bit extreme, but Nigeria = fraud! If you don't believe me just do a quick search with Nigeria and fraud as key words. Don't give them any money.

Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- Robert Stamey -- 3 September 2010

Excellent Union School in Shenyang and I signed a contract in July 2010. The agreement being that they would obtain a foreign expert certification for me...I am 66 years old. I made them sign a ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Ritchy -- 2 September 2010

How can the Chinese authorities allow the Korean school even to continue? Disgusting.

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Chengdu CT -- 3 September 2010

How does it continue? I had a friend that worked their briefly several years ago and this is what he told me. Basically all the kids come from rich families. The parents are busy doing what ever and ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- englishgibson -- 3 September 2010

Not that I am a KIS expert but money might be the answer. I have seen many businesses that have got away with so much poor business people could have only dreamed of on mainland. You get quickly shut ...

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Chengdu FT -- 1 September 2010

Silverboy, how did this escape your attention? Somebody from Wuhan singing the praises of NDI. I was sure there would be comment.

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Silverboy -- 3 September 2010

Yes, you are correct, that post had escaped my attention. However, I have said NDI is crap many times, and especially NDI in Wuhan. If anybody is still stupid enough to work there then that is their ...

jackandenglish, Jinan, beware! -- Straight Up -- 1 September 2010

This Chinese guy's name is Greg, not Jack. He quotes 7000 RMB/month on the blower, and then e-mails you a sample contract offering 6 grand/month. He claims to have partner middle schools all over ...

Re: jackandenglish, Jinan, beware! -- Jonathan Selby -- 2 September 2010

Straight Up, my own dealings with the agency 'jackandenglish' have come to nothing, just like yours! Folks, Greg promises the earth, but delivers nothing at the end of the day. He's just ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- IMilat -- 31 August 2010

people from the West they sometimes employ as "managers", DOSes or whatever who can do nothing better than lording over others They don't lord it over others. They do it because they can and they ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 1 September 2010

Please watch out that the dogs won't eat you up - or that some nasty crocodiles would do the job....LOL

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Silverboy -- 1 September 2010

No, you are wrong IMilat, they do it because they are pathetic and greedy low life scumbags from the West with no morals or ethics. I can tell you just an internet troll trying to cause problems ...

Re: K.I.S. Korean International School in Shenzhen - ESL school review -- Ivan Milat -- 2 September 2010

Actually, S, I'm on your side because we have had exactly the same problems with a recruiter in a city in a province we know well. I just chose this id, because of the recent discoveries in NSW ...

Re: sunny english school in Hohhot and Meizhou -- Ivan Milat -- 31 August 2010

As far as Hohhot being "in the middle of nowhere" It's still pretty remote and isolated, much as Baotou is.

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Joe Blogs -- 1 September 2010

Well well, there are certainly people out there who will sing the praises of companies that continue to feed them money and require that they make little or no effort to change an ultimatley flawed ...

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Kaibo -- 2 September 2010

Everything in life, certainly in the ESL industry, is relevant to the individual level of service and the individual experience. Having said that, nothing in life is ever perfect, especially in the ...

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Joe Blogs -- 2 September 2010

Ah yes, you’re quite right to say it is down to personal experience. Of course it will depend on which branch you go to and of course it will depend on your perspective. In the West, if something is ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- wendy -- 31 August 2010

I am the manager of WaiYan School, we never hired a person called Jeff, so he is cheating to annouce this. If he has the courage to annouce or warn other foreigners ,at least he should use his real ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- englishgibson -- 31 August 2010

Wendy, using my real name and experiences on forums have caused me a share of troubles, even threats on my life. I don't lie and I am sure some ficticious user names on aren't so false too. ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Cynthia -- 2 September 2010

"Wendy, using my real name and experiences on forums have caused me a share of troubles, even threats on my life", according to englishgibson. Rather too dramatic, isn't it? Do you REALLY expect ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- englishgibson -- 2 September 2010

Cynthia, rather bitter, aren't you? Who is "us" to you? On the contrary, I have not been reading much of your contribution on, and so I don't know who you or "us" are here. Hard to comment on ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Cynthia -- 3 September 2010

Englishgibson, I'm not gonna fall into the same trap that you have by divulging personal information about myself online. As you know only too well, that can lead to vitriol. However, I will say ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- englishgibson -- 4 September 2010

Cynthia, I didn't ask for your date of birth, size of shoes or pic, did I? If you want the frequent readers, that you say are behind you, believe you, you'll have to come up with a bit more ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- same -- 4 September 2010

As a teacher worked here before I think everyone has his different cases, to tell is good but to insult is terrible. I hope you should respect everyone that is repect yourself ,you have no right to ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Turnoi -- 4 September 2010

"Cynthia" - whoever that is - definitely posts in favour of that crappy recruiter - something we have seen here so often. Just ignore that "lady".

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Turnoi -- 3 September 2010

And who are you, "Cynthia"? Working for crappy wonna-be-recruiter Wendy, Donicia and/or posting in her favour?

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Turnoi -- 1 September 2010

I am the manager of WaiYan School, we never hired a person called Jeff, so he is cheating to annouce this. If he has the courage to annouce or warn other foreigners ,at least he should use his real ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- smiler -- 4 September 2010

The fact that you do not know anyone by the name of "Jeff" does not mean that the person is a fake and the report he has given is not true. Many people decide to use aliases to protect their privacy, ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Turnoi -- 4 September 2010

What about suggesting that "Cynthia" is a teethless tiger - or a "paper tiger" as former Chairman has put with respect to his assertion regarding "American imperialism"? Crocs retain their teeth all ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- Oldtimer -- 4 September 2010

TEETHLESS? Come on now, Turnoi, you can surely do better than that! Try TOOTHLESS instead, and maybe some readers will respect your English level. Very few native speakers would ever use ...

Re: "Nanjing Ahead Education" not ahead in education but in making money -- OGA -- 30 August 2010

I don't think you're talking about the real Nanjing Ahead I know. These are all lies and don't mislead the public. Shame on you.

Re: "Nanjing Ahead Education" not ahead in education but in making money -- Turnoi -- 31 August 2010

I don't think you're talking about the real Nanjing Ahead I know. These are all lies and don't mislead the public. Shame on you. I do not know what "you know", and I would also highly ...

Ewha Korean School Qingdao -- American Teacher -- 29 August 2010

BEWARE I was offered a teaching position at Ewha Korean School in Qingdao. They told me to be ready to start on or before August 21. They started the paperwork and I gave proper notice and left my ...

Re: Ewha Korean School Qingdao -- Toby -- 1 September 2010

I worked there for 6-months last year. At that time there were some management issues but the place ran well for the most part, the money was good, on time, and they honored my contract. This sounds ...

Re: Ewha Korean School Qingdao -- Turnoi -- 31 August 2010

I think you were too "generous" with them; I would not have wasted my time and energy on them if they would not come up with something. And most importantly of all, I would not have quit my current ...

Re: Ewha Korean School Qingdao -- al76 -- 30 August 2010

I'd avoid working with koreans in any capacity from what I have heard of nightmare stories. As the arrogant aussie said: "Not even gunna bovva mate!"

Re: ENLI, Tianjin -- Maureen Ayaruak -- 28 August 2010

Well this is very disturbing be the fact that u are talkin about my brother Shawn..... I went to Google his name hoping to find a # I can call him at in China, and i read stuff like this...... ...

Re: Manhattan Kid's Club - Shenzhen - run by a bunch of kids (2) -- Tim Allen -- 29 August 2010

Well, it's been 4 years since I wrote my original review of MKC. While I certainly can't make any statement as to how it's run now, I still stand behind my original post. What I do find ...

Re: Manhattan Kid's Club - Shenzhen - run by a bunch of kids (2) -- cunning linguist -- 29 August 2010

Well Tim, an interesting post and I'm not sure why you have re-visited this after such a long time. It is still bugging you I guess. Any decent educational establishment should welcome a teacher ...

Re: Manhattan Kid's Club - Shenzhen - run by a bunch of kids (2) -- englishgibson -- 30 August 2010

Well, CL, I wouldn't post on this one, if you didn't. It's really hard to counter your highly professional post that most likely indicates the real truth behind the motives of a ...

Re: Manhattan Kid's Club - Shenzhen - run by a bunch of kids (2) -- Turnoi -- 31 August 2010

Rather than enduring any pain caused by some greedy, mean and incompetent business people in China's absolutely rotten ESl industry, I'd give them a kick with my shoes into their a@@se and ...

Re: Manhattan Kid's Club - Shenzhen - run by a bunch of kids (2) -- Turnoi -- 30 August 2010

While reading through the subsequent posts here on the ESL Teachers Board, I found most of them quite humorous. I wouldn't go as far as to say that MKC was run by the kids, as Alyssa Liang is a ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Robert Stanelle -- 27 August 2010

The real problem with these sites is that people can simply lie and tell any tales they like with no relation to the truth and no knowledge of the real facts of a situation. Did a teacher have his ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- ale -- 29 August 2010

These young people need to understand that in China a contract is a contract. This is not professional sports where they can just break a contract without penalty. Utter shyte. A contract is not as ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- englishgibson -- 29 August 2010

Ale, I so agree. The SAFEA says, they will act as a third party in employer-employee disputes, but in fact they rarely do. In a local nuclear powerplant that's got "Shell" overhead, my Brithish ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Dragonized -- 28 August 2010

He broke his contract with the university and he was penalized for doing so. I was not involved in the decision. It was purely a legal one between him and the university. Apparently, Mr. Stanelle ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- cunning linguist -- 27 August 2010

Robert, you realise that this site and others are open forums. Some are more open than others. I believe that it is this openness that makes a site what it is, and to that end there will be truths, ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Robert Stanelle -- 28 August 2010

Personally, I will never read anything here or comment again. We are a first class school and organization in every way and anyone who chooses not to apply with us due do the parade of garbage ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- cunning linguist -- 28 August 2010

I can understand your frustration, but throwing your toys out of the pram doesn't help. Did I question the status of your university? Did I say it was crap? Did I make any direct statements ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 29 August 2010

You do not do yourself a favour if you fail to respond to the inputs made by several users in connection with your posts, Robert. Communication on a topic never is a one-way-road - the great Robert ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- La Bouffe -- 29 August 2010

We are a first class school and organization in every way and anyone who chooses not to apply with us due do the parade of garbage published here, well, it is your loss. The way you come across in ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- englishgibson -- 28 August 2010

Robert, I personally will miss you. You have demonstrated that you have motives and opportunities to act on your employer's and your own behalf rather than serve the foreign teachers. Cheers and ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Silverboy -- 27 August 2010

"In China a contract is a contract". That would have to be the biggest load of BS I have ever seen written here. Well Robert Stanelle, by reading your posts here I must come to the conclusion that ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 28 August 2010

What planet have you been living on? The Chinese break contracts all the time, if they feel the contract conditions are not in their favour. And I would have to say that Chinese people involved in ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Robert Stanelle -- 26 August 2010

I am Robert Stanelle, the Coordinator of English Programs for the Postgraduate Department at Wuhan Textile University. I am shocked to read these posts from people I would consider to completely ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- englishgibson -- 26 August 2010

Robert, while you are shocked to read these posts, I am thrilled to have read your post on. Your and my experiences seem to have some similarities. As a coordinator, have you recruited, trained and ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Robert Stanelle -- 27 August 2010

Englishgibson: I do assist in recruiting and evaluation of new resumes when my university ask me to do so. I also assist in orientation and training activities due to my extensive education and ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- englishgibson -- 27 August 2010

Robert, too many foreign applicants for teaching jobs are misled by recruiters, local employers, and the contracts with unclear wording that at times have contradictory clauses to the local ...

Re: WUSE - Robert Stanelle/Ann Zhang - Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 28 August 2010

....I do assist in recruiting and evaluation of new resumes when my university ask me to do so. I also assist in orientation and training activities due to my extensive education and experience. ...

Towol Elementary School, Choi ung Gi, Kelly Noh, Changwon, South Korea -- it's335 -- 25 August 2010

Hi~ I would like to share my poor experience working with Kelly Noh, Choi un Gi (Choi sounds like Che) and Towol Elementary School in Changwon, South Korea. I wouldn't recommend anyone to work ...

School: Yong-in Little Palace DO NOT WORK HERE -- Eric -- 25 August 2010

DO NOT WORK FOR THIS SCHOOL! Details: Yong-in Little Palace Private Hogwan in Gusong Owned and operated by “Michelle” and her family Here is the story During the construction of the contract, the ...

Re: Gallop International English School - ESL school review -- Dragonized -- 25 August 2010

Groveling weasels like you shouldn't be anywhere near boards like these telling people off on how "wonderful" your school is. There are many people in this world who use religion as a front to ...

York School of English, Krakow -- Anon -- 24 August 2010

Don't, don't, don't work here!!! I worked at this school and it is one of the worst and most unprofessional schools I have ever seen in my life. It has a good reputation and a nice ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- smiler -- 24 August 2010

nice one Turnoi. always pleasant to read posts like yours and some of the others here. the more I read the posts here the more I laugh at the feeble attempts of rats for the want of a better word, ...

Re: EF Yuyao - ESL school review -- Frank Evans -- 23 August 2010

If you considering working for EF Yuyao in/after September 2010, please read this post carefully and make up your own mind. All these facts I will talk about here can be verified when you speak to an ...

Re: EF Yuyao - ESL school review -- englishgibson -- 23 August 2010

Frank, what you have described in your post will open the eyes of many foreign teachers in or coming to China and especially the ones that think of applying at the EF English First. I myself have ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- pp -- 22 August 2010

What utter crap, threatening people on these boards. Further proof to avoid them.

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 24 August 2010

What utter crap, threatening people on these boards. Absolutely right, such "threats" are utter crap and not helpful at all to resolve the "problem". Such "threats" do not impress me at all as they ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Migrant Worker -- 25 August 2010

I can assure you it is entirely in vain. Here's pretty much why: "Face" is the most important thing in China. If she admits her faults, in her warped mind she is losing face. Therefore, she is ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Silverboy -- 25 August 2010

You are probably correct that the "losing face" rubbish that many Chinese still foolishly believe in has something to do with the attitude of the goons at YUMING. Here is more likely explanation ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Migrant Worker -- 26 August 2010

I am quite sure it is a combination of all the above. The "face" thing isn't the sole blame for their actions but I feel it is a powerful contributor. I think Helen sleeps well at night feeling ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 25 August 2010

I don't believe that the 'Chinese losing face thing' comes into the equation at all. It's clear that Yuming knows full-well that each year they will have trouble with many of their ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Migrant Worker -- 26 August 2010

Well, it is hard for someone from a western culture (assume you are) to think like someone from the Chinese culture. I believe it does have to do with "face" or fear of losing it and admitting ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 26 August 2010

Yes, I'm English. There is a lot in what you say. The main thing is that we concur, Yuming leaves a lot to be desired and has to be one of the worst teaching outlets in China. I think it's ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- BB -- 26 August 2010

But here's a simple example of my theory in which we can all relate. Go to a grocery store and ask a random clerk for something. Many times, instead of telling you they don't know or taking ...

ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Capability Brown -- 19 August 2010

The reason I have decided to start this thread is because even though I have found this board to be a great resource for information regarding employment in education, there are often many many posts ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- englishgibson -- 21 August 2010

This is internet. It is and will be abused. To change that, you'll have to move to another planet. Facts come and go or get thrown out for varieties of reasons and so teachers will always have ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- cunning linguist -- 20 August 2010

I wish you luck with your proposed format as I suggested something similar over a year ago. Silverboy also started the 'Hall of Shame.' The main difficulty is in the updating of the ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Silverboy -- 23 August 2010

An ESL shame file that is regularly updated is quite a good idea in my opinion. It is needed because there are always plenty of newbies coming to China who need to know about the worst schools and ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- englishgibson -- 25 August 2010

I don't disagree having such a "file" on the site, but can you all imagine the lawsuits from local employers? Any site would get threats and even possible shutdown locally as in some areas of the ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Silverboy -- 3 September 2010

The way to go is to pick off the bad schools one by one. Think globally, act locally. Yes, I know I can't destroy every training centre in China, but I can sure cause many problems for the ones ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Oldtimer -- 3 September 2010

The perennial problem is that there are always academically unqualified Westerners who cannot obtain employment at proper educational insttutions in China, such as middle schools and universities, ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- englishgibson -- 4 September 2010

Oldtimer, the perennial problem is that the locals have decided to control their educational system completely and that with many of their poorly experienced and qualified individuals. Any ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- elisha -- 4 September 2010

Interested to read your comments defending the school. Well it is good to hear a satisfied EFL teacher who can deal with the organization and not be bullied or misrepresented by same. Perhaps, as you ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- I Milat. -- 4 September 2010

who don't mind being used and abused by training centers for 5000 or so Yuan a month; that is still an acceptable alternative to being a waiter (waitress) in the West for such ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Turnoi -- 4 September 2010

I kind of agree with what you have written here, but I know one such training centre/private school where said "adventurers" earn 8,000 rmb a month. Sans degree. Mr Durak, since you claim to "know" ...

Re:Durak is Turnoi?! -- IM EUSSR -- 4 September 2010

Mr Durak, since you claim to "know" such a place it seems that you are one of those "adventurers" yourself working there. Is there a need for you to show that you know some "French", or why are using ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Turnoi -- 24 August 2010

It is one more reason why training centres should be eliminated, apart from corruption and poor education standards. Fully agreed, SB! We have said that so many times on ESL TB, now let other people ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- smiler -- 24 August 2010

Silverboy. I have only respect for people like you. having just read your post, I don't think anyone could have put it better. I was one of the new guys that got caught up in a bad school. you ...

Re: ESL NAME AND SHAME - CHINA -- Silverboy -- 24 August 2010

Thanks for your nice words. I can now spot the liars and cheats fairly easily, but I was almost screwed over in 2007 ( by Frank Zhang ), and in Changchun when I first came to China. Many people have ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- G-Bird -- 19 August 2010

WOW, some people come with unreasonable expectations and soon become disillusioned. Life in China is different to life in America, not better or worse, just different. You need to immerse yourself in ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- You are seriously joking right? -- 20 August 2010

WOW, some people come with unreasonable expectations and soon become disillusioned. Life in China is different to life in America, not better or worse, just different. You need to immerse yourself in ...

Re: Aclipse -- Scott -- 19 August 2010

A couple of months ago a saw an advertisement placed by Aclipse for EFL teachers in South Korea. After reading the rather plausible post from Aclipse I decided to go ahead and apply through them. And ...

Re: Aclipse -- Sean Daley -- 19 August 2010

Dear Scott, Like any employer, we do not automatically contact and interview every candidate that applies for a job with us, even if they are TEFL certified. We have limited positions to fill and ...

Re: Aclipse -- Scott Hart -- 20 August 2010

Dear Sean, In response to your e-mail, I would agree that the less professional recruiters do not reply to all applicants. However, the good recruiters do make contact even if it is to let applicants ...

Re: Aclipse -- Sean Daley -- 20 August 2010

Scott, Everyone who applies with Aclipse recieves and automated message informing them that we have received thier application, and if we feel they are a good fit for our client, they will be ...

Re: Aclipse -- Scott -- 21 August 2010

I acknowledge that your first responsibility is to your clients but in order to meet your clients’ needs you must be able to recruit able and qualified teachers. Applicants can spend a significant ...

Re: Aclipse -- Migrant Worker -- 21 August 2010

I am not going to hitch a ride with either train here, but a business is a business. It would be nice to be sent a letter informing them that they were not a fit for this position but you will ...

Re: Aclipse -- Sean -- 24 August 2010

Thank you both for your feedback.

Ansan TOPIA, CIS/ EDUORANGE recruiting -- Terry -- 17 August 2010

Stephen Cho lies to people saying that the boss pays and is friendly. The owner does not pay his teachers and currently has fired 2 teachers in their 11th month. Stephen Cho is an investor in the ...

Re: Giraffe English Language School - Haikou -- mark -- 16 August 2010

well. Its been what, 6 months. sorry to say my blog got shut down (china's fire wall) Problems so far, NILL so i think you are either the teacher that hit a kid and got fired (for hitting a ...

Re: Giraffe English Language School - Haikou -- mark -- 24 August 2010

Dear teachers. Regarding looking at the first post then to the second post and then to my posts. I would like to make it Clear that the original post from David about the Giraffe English Language ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Utter Rubbish -- 15 August 2010

I like this last comment and thought it was somewhat true - the others are not worth a response. Yes, I'm sure if you sign into a contract where your employer is relying on you because they must ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Silverboy -- 16 August 2010

A great post, YUMING EDUCATION is a criminal, and immoral organization, Helen is a lying weasel, this disgusting YUMING needs to be put out of business ASAP! The jury is out, YUMING EDUCATION CENTER ...

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Re: Bethel Language and Culture Center and SMYL International School -- USA_will_collapse -- 14 August 2010

What a BIGOTED odious person. Not only is he racist to phillipinos, he offends all laowais with phillipino friends/wives. Let's hope he gets his come uppance. Arrogant septic tank.

Re: A fair warning to Frank Zhang and his likes -- Alain Boutton -- 14 August 2010

1) Who is Turnoi ? He is not even in China. A guy with two PhDs who can`t write correct sentences in English. This young man has some mental problems, when he accuses a recruiter for trying to rape ...

Re: A fair warning to Frank Zhang and his likes -- Dragonized -- 25 August 2010

To KGB, I have some questions. He is not even in China. A guy with two PhDs who can`t write correct sentences in English. Hey buddy, when you're writing "can`t" like this you give us all doubt on ...

Re: A fair warning to Frank Zhang and his likes -- Turnoi -- 25 August 2010

The KGB poster has had his own business agenda at that time when he was posting here. Worse, he tried to hide this and to come across as a "normal" poster. Another fruitless attempt at deception of ...

Re: A fair warning to Frank Zhang and his likes -- Silverboy -- 14 August 2010

KGB was a fool who used to post here about two years ago. I have never "taught illegally at several private language schools in Wuhan". I have always taught legally at public colleges and ...

Re: Sunflower Trilingual School,Samut Sakorn,Thailand -- agree! -- 13 August 2010

Attitude adjuster has it all right, except it is worse than it sounds.

Stay away from Qhiongzhou University Sanya Hainan China -- Another teacher from Qhiongzhou U -- 12 August 2010

"DO NOT TEACH A QHIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" This is a very bad school.I was only there one month before having problems with everything from housing to salary.The classrooms are a ...

Berlitz Beijing -- Louise -- 12 August 2010

When a school reputation is trashed. Worked there for short while and suggest professionals avoid it like the plague. No organization, no honesty and purported fraud. One teacher had credit card ...

Kaplan Brightstar Vietnam -- Steve Williams -- 11 August 2010

KAPLAN BRIGHTSTAR VIETNAM is always advertising for teachers. You will be lied to and abused by Bruce and Diep Newton. You will be sent from one center to the next on a public bus at a moments ...

ETERNAL SEA, NANJING -- Calamaro -- 11 August 2010

Hello, folks! I would like to share my experience with the school that I worked for as of recently. I am non-native speaker who has been working in China as an EFL teacher for the past two years. At ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Danny -- 11 August 2010

I have worked for Yuming for the last two years and have really enjoyed it. The teaching side of working in China is a real challenge. I have been lucky to have had good relationships with the ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- G-Lad -- 11 August 2010

I am working at Yuming and have had no problems with the company or staff. I do know people who have stayed for more than 1 year and have been given pay rises. Every company has problems but I enjoy ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Mars -- 11 August 2010

Judging by your story, it sounds like you are not really cut out for teaching in China.Yuming is a really nice place to work. They are very friendly. I have been here 2 years now and have decided ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- jack -- 13 August 2010

LOL - I wonder how much money Helen and Amy paid their green recruits to post up their little shining reviews. One question, clearly two of them are written by a western hand, one of the posted on ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Liam -- 12 August 2010

I have been here a year. I enjoy lving in China. And I've found that the easiest part of living in Tianjin is my relationship with Yuming. I have never had any problems. They went out of their ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Migrant Worker -- 16 August 2010

No offense, as I am neutral to the whole YuMing thing... but the posts that put YuMing in a positive light sound very suspicious. They read like they were all posted by the same person trying to hold ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 17 August 2010

Hallo Migrant Worker Bad English Centres in China are heading for destruction at no time soon, I'm afraid; Yuming will be gay-fully coining in the dosh this time next year. This economic ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Milo -- 19 August 2010

AGree wit everything posted here. Just finished working at this shithole. Not only are they advertising specific holiday periods and additional work available when on holiday, but I actually asked ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 21 August 2010

I worked in China for quite a few years and in my experience the majority of teaching establishments will give you a pack of old lies about one thing or another; however, Yuming really is the worst ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 22 August 2010

Oh yes, in case you are unclear about the Zaid visa (or Zee) it gets cancelled anyway when you get the 'Residence permit' stuck in your passport, and of course you use that to exit and enter ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- C-Hunter -- 11 August 2010

I have worked for Yuming for the last two years. They are never lie to me and they has honoured the contract. I was impressed with how they easy to contact and helpful. This is very important for any ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- tom -- 13 August 2010

It's unusual for a "school" to reply to criticism, but Yuming has always been stupid enough to do so. When these Chinese employers do so, they usually enlist the services of newly acquired ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Torri -- 14 August 2010

In fact, I lived in Tianjin and I can tell you first hand that Yunming Education is a joke and it should be avoided at any and all costs. I cannot remember the Web site address now, but Yunming is ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 14 August 2010

Well, Torri, if you could discover their new website identity, we can all hit it and perhaps save a few well-meaning westerners from returning home after their Yuming experience with a bad taste in ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- jack -- 14 August 2010

In fact, I lived in Tianjin and I can tell you first hand that Yunming Education is a joke and it should be avoided at any and all costs. I cannot remember the Web site address now, but Yunming is ...

Biz-Ed Consultants Chongqing-Singapore -- Patrick Kelline -- 10 August 2010

First,let me start with their employment advertisment. It states 120,000 rmb a year inclusive which is impossible to earn at this small company which uses policies and rules to take away your salary. ...

Re: Sushan English in Shenyang - Suzanne Scruggs -- Ess -- 9 August 2010

Funny, my friend and I had the EXACT same experience in 2006-2007. We had a fellow Australian woman working with us who also did the overnight escape but I don't think she ended up calling. I ...

Re: Sushan English in Shenyang - Suzanne Scruggs -- Kung Fu Joe -- 9 August 2010

I am genuinely amazed to see that this school is still going! I had the misfortune of working for the vapid wh*re back in about 2004. It seems that absolutely nothing has changed. Including the ...

J-me Language institute Yeosu South Korea -- April -- 9 August 2010

I would like to Black list J-me's Language Institute in Yeosu, South Korea. This school has bullied, and tortured their employee. I am friends with this employee. He is not a certified teacher, ...

Re: Waiyan Recruiter:Wendy/Donicia Tieling, Liaoning -- same -- 8 August 2010

i thought this wasn't true but i had the same share of shits in that school... I was expecting to get my full salary and full airfare... they just gave me half after an argument.... the boss is ...

Re: Chengdu Meten / Metro -- Cathy -- 7 August 2010

This must be Meten on another planet -perhaps there is one on mars.....

Re: Chengdu Meten / Metro -- englishgibson -- 8 August 2010

Cathy, who are you? There are so many users on and some say little about little and some have varieties of motives to post. My motive is to inform all I can and I give what I know, have learnt or ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- jerry -- 5 August 2010

Yuming has no Ties to the PSB. Amy works in a mediocre capacity for the government. My Chinese family has ties to the PSB, we are good friends with the police commissioner who oversees the PSB. We ...

ATTENTION FOREIGNERS: Lee, cell phone Number is 13893334919 -- Martin luther -- 5 August 2010

There is one Chinese guy here in Lanzhou,His English name is Lee and his cell phone Number is 13893334919 ,He is an illegal agent without eny licens issude by the foreign affairs office for him to ...

Re: ATTENTION FOREIGNERS: Lee, cell phone Number is 13893334919 -- Stylecat -- 6 August 2010

Well done Martin for publishing that mobile number. People like Lee need to be exposed. There are so many gutless wonders on boards like this who are scared of crap training centres and recruiters. ...

Re: ATTENTION FOREIGNERS: Lee, cell phone Number is 13893334919 -- LeeHarvey -- 5 August 2010

Who the hell do you think you are posting someone's telephone number? Delete that damn thing! You have NO RIGHT publishing such contact information! PATHETIC Sounds to me you're probably a ...

Re: ATTENTION FOREIGNERS: Lee, cell phone Number is 13893334919 -- Alain -- 11 August 2010

Actually he does, last I checked eslteachersboard.com was not hosted in China. And it hasn't been taken down yet,so. The show must go on, that is all. Freedom of information and all that, the ...

Re: English International, Shenzhen Recruiter / Recruitment Agency -- Alain -- 5 August 2010

Ged, thanks for that post, that is some scary stuff indeed! Both are money obsessed, to your face liars who con "fresh off the boat" foreigners in to signing ridiculous contracts verging on ...

Chengdu NDI and Dennis L -- Chengdu CT -- 3 August 2010

A while back I was doing some background information on Dennis L[edited]. Dennis is the Malaysian Chinese fellow with a Canadian passport that runs the corporate training program for NDI in Chengdu. ...

Re: Broken Dreams, Broken Promises -- Da Wei -- 3 August 2010

I had the unfortunate pleasure of working there and found every post here to be true. It got so bad that I booked from there. The first time in 5 years of teaching. A colleague who is still there ...

Re: Andinet International School In Addis -- john -- 2 August 2010

I am a bit surprised to learn that this thread has receives so much activity since that post was made. I have moved on, but apparently some others have not. In that post that I have written, I had ...

Re: Yale English Academy, Gumi South Korea (in Hyunguk-Dong) -- Duck -- 2 August 2010

I know this post is old, but I wanted to add to it and update. I worked at Yale in Gumi for a period, I had been told about the attack, and since then the boss only hires men... To add to the first ...

Suzhou International Foreign Language School, Xiangcheng District of Suzhou -- Ldblo -- 1 August 2010

Not to be confused with the Suzhou foreign language school, this school is located in the Xiangcheng District of Suzhou and is certainly an institution to AVOID AT ALL COSTS. This school has a ...

Re: Suzhou International Foreign Language School, Xiangcheng District of Suzhou -- bhay -- 3 August 2010

I agree, and nothing has been done... its a trashy school with no respect to foreign teachers.

Re: Suzhou International Foreign Language School, Xiangcheng District of Suzhou -- Ldblo -- 3 August 2010

I'm currently busy with the state department of foreign affairs with regards to the school so watch this space.

Re: Suzhou International Foreign Language School, Xiangcheng District of Suzhou -- bhay -- 4 August 2010

hi, did u work in that school?? thats great, at least its not just me who's complaining.... i had the worst time of my life in that school . SO PLS EVERYONE , SPARE URSELF FROM BEING TREATED LIKE ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Billy -- 2 August 2010

The Notice Of Yuming Education Center Recently, the individual people who owned personal purpose to spread malicious posts to damage the reputation of Yuming education center on the internet, these ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Silverboy -- 6 August 2010

I agree with everything you said. I don't post here often any more ( have better things to do ), but I can't let Yu Ming post their rubbish on the internet without responding. YUMING ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Someone -- 9 August 2010

I was actually pawing at the idea of joining up with this "fine" establishment but my spidey sense went off with the sheer number of posts I see on their behalf. It reeks of desperation, and my ...

Re: Jiujiang University -- englishgibson -- 1 August 2010

Stanley, it seems you've learned what this country's stands for in the sense of education and human resources. In fact,many students get chosen for their test results and schools' ...

Re: Jiujiang University -- Stanley Crawford -- 6 August 2010

Hello englishgibson, and thank you for commenting on my post about JJU. It was figured out in early 2004 how things ran in China. Guangxi was everything and this is why I had the support of the ...

Jiujiang University -- Stanley Crawford -- 1 August 2010

"As a businessperson, why I would never hire a Jiujiang University Graduate & my residing as a foreigner there" A few years ago I read a comment posted by a Chinese businessman on why he would never ...

Re: Jiujiang University -- Alain -- 13 August 2010

Thanks for the heads up about this place, I thought Nan bloody chang was bad enough, but now it seems the whole province is to be avoided like s&&& on a stick! Samuel Shuai has an opinion that: ...

Re: Jiujiang University -- Stanley Crawford -- 15 August 2010

Over the years Jiujiang University's FAO have reduced the paid benefits of electrical, Internet, providing holiday travel and summer months pay if your contract was renewed, yet my current ...

Re: Jiujiang University -- Alain -- 16 August 2010

Stanley thanks for the heads up about this place. Sounds absolutely horrific. Take comfort from the fact there ARE better places AND schools than Jiangxi province and that terrible school. I can also ...

Re: PERLANDAS EDUCATION & LEGAL CONSULTING COMPANY -- onedaytheidiotswillreadthisboardfirst -- 31 July 2010

PELCC are still up and running................my advice runaway as far as you can from them! They are a butch of rip-off merchants. Stay away and sign nothing !!!! And if any of you good schools use ...

Re: PERLANDAS EDUCATION & LEGAL CONSULTING COMPANY -- englishgibson -- 1 August 2010

Darn, aren't these people all over the elt site? I've pointed out to the owner before that his site had some really questionable job offers. I can't believe what's going on in the job ...

Re: Walton School of Foreign Lnguages. -- face the facts -- 30 July 2010

Marc It was good of you to write in support of Walton English School in Huadu was it from your heart or what you would get out of it? Maybe that is unfair to ask but from all accounts you had a ...

Re: Walton School of Foreign Lnguages. -- Marc -- 30 July 2010

I was told to place kind words about Walton on certain websites and rather than say no, i did it as it made for an easier life there....i got nothing out of it, had a difficult time until i was made ...

Re: Walton School of Foreign Lnguages. -- face the facts -- 31 July 2010

Thank you for the most honest post on this school, that there has been. Sadly, there are a few very good people that will be hurt by these posts but one can hope that one day there be a honest ...

Re: Changchun Xinyu Education School -- tiredeyes -- 30 July 2010

I did work for this company and even though its not the worst out there, its certainly not the best either. They do pay you on time, they provide decent accomodations, and they do provide working ...

Re: Changchun Xinyu Education School -- in the know -- 9 August 2010

Xin Yu, WECI, Eagle, Victoria, and a host of other schools in Changchun need to be avoided. the Chines boss sells visas, sells imported cars and generally does not care about the ft at all. He is ...

CSCIEE and CCIEE esl teaching jobs -- Joe -- 26 July 2010

CSCIEE and CCIEE beware of these jobs as they will not honor certain details of the contract, that they originally wrote up. they will cost you money,and hold your paperwork that you need to continue ...

ALCANTA COLLEGE of FOREIGN STUDIES -- IntheKnow -- 25 July 2010

HEY ALL DO NOT WORK FOR ALCANTA. They Lie about housing and you have to rent your own place. Overtime is Monthly and unless you work your ass off you get NONE. Mandatory overtime weekly by 1 or 2 ...

Re: ALCANTA COLLEGE of FOREIGN STUDIES -- englishgibson -- 28 July 2010

I sympathize with you and I understand what you're saying very well. I bet this school will only get the bottom of the barrel teachers in the upcoming year and in future, since there're more ...

Re: Guiyang CC English school -- Simon -- 24 July 2010

Hey, My wife and I were recruited by this school and taken in by all their false promises and lies. We spent a couple of thousand pounds getting out to China and more while in China. The school ...

Web English / LV Summer - Lydian / Jiaxing China -- james mcgraw -- 23 July 2010

Do not sign a contract with WEB English, Jiaxing, China. This is not the first complaint to be filed against the Web (Webi) English school in Jiaxing, China. If you are considering taking a job with ...

Re: Web English / LV Summer - Lydian / Jiaxing China -- Migrant Worker -- 25 July 2010

Hello, I just wanted to mention that Web has many other branches around China that are more or less the same as you mentioned. I would give Web miss altogether unless it is in a very developed city. ...

Re: Warning:Liyang Foreign Language School A.K.A Liyang English School -- englishgibson -- 22 July 2010

Paul, it's not illegal to reside on a tourist visa in any appartment on mainland. But you must register with the corresponding local police station that you live there and doing so you need the ...

Re: Warning:Liyang Foreign Language School A.K.A Liyang English School -- amanda -- 22 July 2010

I also had the same problem while I worked at Liyang Foreign language school. I had been working there for one year, the students were great, teachers great but Madame Li owns the police force there ...

Re: Warning:Liyang Foreign Language School A.K.A Liyang English School -- Turnoi -- 22 July 2010

They often don't pay, if they do, it was late but the biggest problem was the power that the owner of the school had. the biggest problem was the power that the owner of the school had = the ...

Re: New Century School, Dalian - ESL school review -- fuctifino -- 22 July 2010

Hmm.....what a wonderfully written post from you, how much did Dawei pay you for that? Many places for you to rest? where exactly? The classrooms? The office is private, which means staff only, a ...

Re: Child-U in Yeosu, South Korea - ESL school review -- Kelli -- 21 July 2010

Funny, I'm heading back to E-World for a second year at the end of the summer and randomly decided to google it tonight. I was definitely NOT expecting to find a huge thread about the school and, ...

Re: Foshan experimental primary school -- Amanda -- 21 July 2010

I was there in 2009 and they did exactly the same to me - I wish I had read peter's review before I went half way round the world to get abused & ripped off. The head of the English dept is an ...

Foshan experimental primary school -- Sarah -- 25 July 2010

Hi Amanda, I would be very keen to speak to you on this matter. I've been looking at this school. Your email address is giving failure notifications when i attempt to email you. Could you ...

Telfort Business Institute Shanghai -- Dave -- 21 July 2010

Telfort Business Institute Shanghai (Delter) - Does anyone know anything about this school or company? I was contacted by one of their staff about ESL Openings. Thanks!

suzhou international foreign language school -- naomy -- 19 July 2010

I am a teacher here in this school and I got the scrariest time of my life, I had never seen such people (who treated foreigners like trash)who are so unprofessional disrespectful and uneducated!!! ...

Re: suzhou international foreign language school -- Scampbell -- 20 July 2010

that is made in China and only In China as the saying goes.

Re: suzhou international foreign language school -- Turnoi -- 20 July 2010

that is made in China and only In China as the saying goes. Do you want to suggest that this is "typically Chinese"? If so, I would reject that notion as this would mean discrimination of an entire ...

Re: suzhou international foreign language school -- Migrant Worker -- 21 July 2010

I agree, let's not throw everyone into a box and label it. As tempting as the notion is, it is wrong. These sort of labels breed ignorance and add to the degradation of the human race. It is ...

Re: suzhou international foreign language school -- Turnoi -- 21 July 2010

Thank you for the excellent and most appropriate advice you have given below; I fully agree! The only way it's going to change is if we stop being ignorant and thoroughly research the chosen ...

Re: suzhou international foreign language school -- bhay -- 21 July 2010

Hi turnoi an MW, I do agree, its true that we as foreigners knows what is legally right for us and this ignorant and crappy chinese way of dealing people esp. (foreigners) need to be dealt with and ...

Re: suzhou international foreign language school -- Turnoi -- 21 July 2010

Actually, a lot of students will not be enrolling this coming sem( i heard that one whole class of the VCE was not satisfied with the program) That's excellent news - crap "schools" can best be ...

Alcanta Language School GZ China -- Jim Dixon -- 19 July 2010

Alcanta Language School hire foriegn teachers and replace them - without payment - whenever they find one they like better. I was told I had a job at Alcanta, by the manager/recruiter who calls ...

Re: Alcanta Language School GZ China -- englishgibson -- 19 July 2010

Jim, I think there're openings in that school. I was offered a job there, although I declined. In fact, I declined twice, ones when during an interview I said that I was not just "An Oral English ...

C.S.C.I.E.E./Beijing all of China -- joe -- 19 July 2010

Dear Teachers, Please Beware!! they were CCIEE now using CSCIEE.....they will keep your flight funds, and just not honor the contract or particular parts of the contract, that they drafted. DO NOT ...

Re: C.S.C.I.E.E./Beijing all of China -- Liz -- 27 July 2010

This post is fake - I emailed this guy and he was just trying to advertise some Chinese podcast - however if anyone has actually done the program and has a REAL experience I would like to know about ...

Re: C.S.C.I.E.E./Beijing all of China -- LOL -- 19 July 2010

Could you post their email address and telephone number, etc. ? The more info you provide, the more helpful it's going to be.

Zhejiang city- Jiangnan (SouthRiver school) Middle school -- Scampbell -- 18 July 2010

This is to warn foreigners both Native and non- Native being invited to work in either Jiagnan Zhong Xue or named as South River School in Fuyang city or Fuzhong to be very careful. The school paid ...

Re: Zhejiang city- Jiangnan (SouthRiver school) Middle school -- Migrant Worker -- 20 July 2010

It sounds like a brothel rather than a school, that angry Chinese leader being the pimp. Pimps don't like hearing that other people make more money than them.

Harvard English, Rugao, Jiangsu. -- Rin -- 18 July 2010

This is a training centre. They advertised a summer camp for one month. They also advertised that visa status did not matter. This is incorrect for a start. We found out about this after. However, we ...

Re: Harvard English, Rugao, Jiangsu. -- Migrant Worker -- 20 July 2010

Honestly, You are lucky that they even paid you. They sounded like a sham from the beginning and usually these places would rather just not pay you at all for the inconvenience of screwing up their ...

Re: Harvard English, Rugao, Jiangsu. -- Rin -- 20 July 2010

Yes! I don't really get it.. Do they know it is not a summer camp? Do they know what a summer camp is? I was expecting the worse.. but at least thought it would be in the countryside... maybe ...

Re: vip china via golen gateway advertised on gumtree -- sajad speight -- 16 July 2010

Hi to all it may concern.I recently came across a recruitment agency called golden gateway on the gumtree website claiming they had teaching vacancies in china.I applied and then was contacted by a ...

Re: vip china via golen gateway advertised on gumtree -- Extc -- 17 July 2010

Yes, VIP China, with it's boss, called "Goldwyn" is certainly a fraudulent company.

Re: PERLANDAS EDUCATION & LEGAL CONSULTING COMPANY -- Shannon C -- 16 July 2010

Thank god for this website and for all of you that tested those crazy waters before I jumped in to Perlandas Ed. He just responded regarding sending emails of my passport, degree, references. ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- caitlin -- 15 July 2010

What can I say? Tianshuo moved out from the 21st Century Hotel. They are now a kilometer or so away from their old building. For those who are planning to come to CHina, do not ever believe a company ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- bhay -- 15 July 2010

How could they ever do that to their teachers? Did u try to go to ur embassy and report this matter ?? Did u try to get some evidence and file ur complain to the foreign expert bureau??? I believe ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- caitlin -- 16 July 2010

hello bhay. actually, it is a sad fact that usually, FTs are forced to stay in Tianshuo for the reasons that they are already here in China, with near to expiry visas compunded or being naive. I mean ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- bhay -- 17 July 2010

Hi caitlin . I understand what u mean and I sympathize with those Ft's who really get into something bad and its been worst when u have an employer like a crocodile who makes everything miserable ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- caitlin -- 17 July 2010

hi there again bhay yes, teachers who decide to get out of this company are forced to report them to PSB or on their own embassy just so they can get their documents or money . It is so rare that ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 17 July 2010

This Tianshuo garbage place in Changchun has been discussed here very often already. There is no doubt that this is not a place to work for if you want to save yourself a lot of unnecessary trouble! ...

Re: TIANSHUO, CHANGCHUN, JILIN PROVINCE, - ESL school review -- LOL -- 17 July 2010

What other names do they use?

Re: I say a croc is a croc - is that libel? -- Mahoma Iza -- 14 July 2010

Cheers for the human crocs of the world, so that they find their Dundee.

Re: I say a croc is a croc - is that libel? -- Turnoi -- 14 July 2010

Cheers and beers to all crocodiles that cannot be bribed to become vegetarians so that they can give crappy school owners a big bite...LOL

Re: Dezhou university -- experienced teacher -- 14 July 2010

The staff is great at this university. Everything else is challenged. Old buildings, rats, filthy classrooms, no air conditioning, no heating, third world housing and a tradition of lying, cheating ...

Re: TeacherMexConnect -- Chris -- 13 July 2010

TeacherMexConnect sucksssssss! It is a sham! I paid my $40 back in 2008. I'm not sure that I was contacted by any schools through them, but if I was then it was a pretty bad offer. They claim to ...

Re: TeacherMexConnect -- Cheryl -- 31 July 2010

Ironically, this sounds similar to the TEFL school in Guadalajara where I wasted $1500 plus accommodation. They guaranteed everyone a job. They spent about 2 minutes trying to find me one and that ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- Mariel Klauber -- 12 July 2010

Do not work for Lingdong! Three of my friends and I just completed our ten-month contracts on June 30th at Lingdong School and have been denyed our 4,000rmb deposits (each), 3,333 rmb Flight ...

Lingdong School owes us money! Update -- Mariel Klauber -- 28 July 2010

Lingdong Foreign Language Training School in Foshan f’ed us over. Big time. On the last day of our contract, three of my friends and I were owed 21,833 RMB each ($3,235. usd each!!!!) by Lingdong for ...

Re: Lingdong School owes us money! Update -- Alain -- 28 July 2010

They had so many excuses but the first that they tried was that we were “bad teachers.” Ah, the old "bad teachers" gambit. It's pretty freaking sad that in 2010, China still isn't acting like ...

Re: Lingdong School owes us money! Update -- Turnoi -- 29 July 2010

If they owe you money, there are several things you could do: 1. Stop working immediately, and tell them that you do for not paying you. And tell the students or the students`parents. They will tell ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- Brandon G. Neth -- 23 July 2010

Lingdong School in Foshan China, a 10 month mistake, a lifetime of regret! My name is Brandon Neth, if you have any questions/other concerns feel free to contact me at bneth923@msn.com Also note, I ...

Re: Lingdong school Foshan -- englishgibson -- 29 July 2010

Brandon, I bet there are many out there that'll appreciate your post. Had I not had enough experience from before, I probably would've gotten f*cked by this school myself half a year ago. A ...

Re: TeacherMexConnect -- Thomas -- 11 July 2010

I agree, I paid my $40, got one very bad offer, which I turned down and never heard from them again until I asked them for my money back (Money Back Guarantee?) I got nothing back.

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Brandice -- 10 July 2010

Hi I have been looking for work in china as a teacher I havent really thought about the discrimination factor but I realize there will be some considering China isnt as diverse but like anywhere else ...

EF Institute, Levent? -- Zax2 -- 10 July 2010

Ive read some reviews from a few years ago about EF that were downright scary. Any updates on what it's like to work for EF Institute in Levent, Istanbul? I was thinking to accept a job there but ...

Re: York School of Foreign Languages/ Fuzhou -- Claudius_Mcduff -- 5 July 2010

York School is a school wrought with insufficient management and incapable owners. A true bunch of twats. Now we have a new one, with no business expereince and he hasn’t even got a university ...

Re: York School of Foreign Languages/ Fuzhou -- englishgibson -- 7 July 2010

Mark was the one who started the school there. He ran from EF, ripping them off, so I don't know how real he is. In fact, Mark [edited] has posted some fine stories about the EF Fuzhou to which ...

Re: FOUNTAIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL, ZHUHAI. - ESL school review -- hot -- 5 July 2010

Great School no problems

Re: FOUNTAIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL, ZHUHAI. - ESL school review -- englishgibson -- 8 July 2010

WOW! there's a school that hasn't got any problems at all. and, someone named "hot" describes it in a careful english with four words :) cheers and beers to the hot but beautiful summer

Re: FOUNTAIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL, ZHUHAI. - ESL school review -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 9 July 2010

Crappy training centre , too many problems!

Re: FOUNTAIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL, ZHUHAI. - ESL school review -- englishgibson -- 9 July 2010

i'd be really suprised if "hot" came back and posted ..more words :) cheers and beers to some desperate local school managers and owners

The History of FOUNTAIN ENGLISH LANGUAGE "SCHOOL", ZHUHAI.....LOL -- Turnoi -- 9 July 2010

Near Fountain English "school", the fountain does not work anymore, there is desert, and flowers have withered long time ago. In fact, all things have gone and went down the river in that environment ...

Modern English Studio - no more? -- Curious -- 5 July 2010

Did the Modern English Studio close? There is no website, job posting or voiced concern to be found.

guangdong university of finance, Guangzhou -- sarah -- 5 July 2010

This school seriously misrepresents the job in its advertising. They give the impression of being a public university but are actually a training school within the university of finance. They ...

South River middle school in Fuyang -- Jill Vegas -- 5 July 2010

Hello Guys, Beware of getting a job in Fuyang city, a town in Hangzhou. I ended up working there through a recruiter. There are many reasons why not work there: 1. There are many bosses that you can ...

Re: South River middle school in Fuyang -- Turnoi -- 5 July 2010

That sounds like an excellent school with a lot of people in management who seem very intelligent - or should I say "stupid" instead? Cheers and beers to South River Middle School in Fuyang whose ...

Re: South River middle school in Fuyang -- Jill Vegas -- 5 July 2010

Cheers

Taiyuan University of Technology/Shanxi Province -- woolaozhi -- 4 July 2010

Anyone care to put in their two cents on Taiyuan Uni? If not then comment on the city? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? This HR guy, Bob, seems super, just a great guy. Thx much

Review of Lingdong Training Center, Foshan China -- Mariel Klauber -- 4 July 2010

Lingdong is a SCAM! Three of my friends and I just compleated our ten-month contracts at Lingdong School and on our last day we was told that we would not be receiving our 4,000rmb deposits (each), ...

Re: Review of Lingdong Training Center, Foshan China -- Turnoi -- 4 July 2010

I am sorry to read this and that you are having these problems. Yes, you are right to see the Bureau of Foreign Experts about it, but don't tell your former boss about it (the guy you are calling ...

Re: Jiangxi Vocational College of Ahead Software, Nanchang - ESL school review -- Kanadian -- 3 July 2010

As well as Jiangxi college. Sorry I can't recall the entire name. But it's run via a girl called Nini ... 3 teachers in 2 months, i was one.. But the Foreign Experts Bureau in Nanchang is ...

Yancheng Institute of Technology -- Anon -- 1 July 2010

Don't work there. The staff that handles foreign teachers is incompetent and dishonest and has the support of supervising departments in this regard. I'll just give a couple of examples to ...

Re Yancheng Institute of Technology -- Turnoi -- 1 July 2010

Is that a public "school"?

Ixtlan de Juarez, UNSIJ -- disappointed -- 30 June 2010

Following is a review of Universidad de la Sierra Juarez by a coworker ... " "I’ve been working at the university for 4 months now and I really enjoy it. marsha is right in saying that the ...

Teaching for Disney English -- Kelly -- 30 June 2010

Hello, I am thinking about teaching for Disney English in Shanghai, China. Does anyone have experience with this program? I have worked for Disney before and understand they are a business and they ...

ICEC LANGUAGE INSTITUTE in Incheon, South Korea -- Christina -- 30 June 2010

You do NOT want to work at this school. The director is horrible and treats even the kids bad. He carries around a switch and yells at the teachers AND students. His name is "Mr. Kim" and ...

Re: Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- TKL -- 30 June 2010

Where is the original post? What I am reading doesn't sound too good. I have a contract to teach there. They're paying me only 7000 rmb. Is there HorsePower there so I can supplement my ...

Re: Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- WMD81 -- 10 July 2010

I wonder how people are getting these salary figures. I have a BA and six years experience, and I was offered 4500 rmb.

Re: Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Giselle -- 18 July 2010

Maybe you were the last one to apply. Did you work there?

NANJING AERONAUTICAL - Job offered by Sonia -- JiangsuSainty -- 29 June 2010

Hey there I'v been offered work by a lady called sonia who operates from an email address ending in @163.com She seems to post vacancies faily regularly, being responsible for most of the adverts ...

SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- bhay -- 29 June 2010

beware!!!!! AVOID THIS SCHOOL IF U WANT TO AT PEACE WITH URSELF.THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS SCHOOL NEVER GIVE A DAMN THING ON THIER TEACHERS EVEN WHEN U LOST SOME OF UR THINGS( SOME BREAK INS IN THE ...

Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- myself -- 2 July 2010

this place is very unethical. Alot of things go on between students and teachers. [edited] beware and stay away.

Re: Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- bhay -- 3 July 2010

yep, all true!!! Its so sad how the school treated the foreign teachers. They will provide u with a single apartment but u will be living with all the MOLDS IN THE WHOLE ROOM, makes u sick bec. of ...

Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- Jambo -- 29 June 2010

That "school" is, in terms of ethical behaviour of its leadership, one of the worst I could ever think of. I have heard several times from different people that people from management have ...

Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- Dragonized -- 1 July 2010

AVoid this place at all costs if what is being accused is true. Why won't anyone do anything about this????

Re: Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- Thomas -- 11 July 2010

Sounds familiar! Is this the same school as Suzhou Foreign Language School?

Re: Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- Turnoi -- 11 July 2010

Yes, it is the same "school"....

Re: Re SUZHOU INTERNATIONAL FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL -- bhay -- 11 July 2010

nope, its a different school but almost the same on how they run their school. its all crap!!!!!

Re LTC in Beihai Guangxi - ESL school review -- jon -- 28 June 2010

dude, don't feel bad! I worked there like 6 years ago....and you are right, Beth is a c[edited]... A greed driven total c[edited]...she screwed me and my friend over, tried to cancel our visas ...

TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

It's a good question to ask whether the TEFL International mentioned below is the same that the Bruce poster in this thread represents. I personally think it is the same, and I personally would ...

TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

Here is some information on their course contents; this is only a partial review; and some of the more problematic passages that most probably would need either correction or improvement by ...

Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

I am not going to waste a lot of time here but i will just say two things.... 1. You took an OUTLINE from a website and treated it as if it were a full course syllabus. It wasm in fact, just an ...

Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

A decent school should publish a complete syllabus before anyone enrolls. I think you have lost the argument, leave it at that!

Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

You really are just a troll. And in case you do not know what a troll is, this from the urban dictionary. "A person whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet ...

Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

You have lost the argument, Bruce. Your syllabus or whatever it is intended to be is, IMHO, a mishmash of corn flakes, honey, salt and mustard in a single dish that does not work out. You cannot even ...

Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Sue -- 1 July 2010

To me this thread feels like an inquisition more than an open discussion.

Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- Turnoi -- 2 July 2010

Well, in a way it may come across like an "inquisition". The difference between an inquisition and questioning a business is that there is no torture to get the answers the inquisitioner ...

Re: Re TEFL International - Course Contents (Certificate and Diploma) -- David Nunan -- 3 July 2010

I have no dog in this fight but it sure seems a lot of accusations are being thrown around without a lot of real evidence. I found this on the web page. "The TEFL International Certificate programs ...

Re TEFL International -- Nick Pellatt -- 28 June 2010

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=867566#867566 The second page of this thread also seems to show a number of things that dont add up with this course provider.

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

Personally, I am not a friend of the CELTA course provider concept, and I am much more in favour of including Linguistics and English Grammar in an ESl Teacher training program. But unlike ...

Re TEFL International -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

LOL I will just restate what I said before. You took a brief outline from a website and critiqued it as if it were a complete syllabus. Thats just silly. Next, David Hopkins. SIT MA and nearly 40 ...

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

Its kinda sad when people have nothing better to do than be trolls. I suggest you look in the mirror.

Re TEFL International -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

Good news. I just looked in the mirror. I am not over here simply criticizing others with no real evidence and limited background. I am not delving into minutia and arguing for the sake of arguing. I ...

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

Instead of offering some helpful arguments to say why I am nor right in what I said re your "program", you turn to calling other people names. Seems to be a CEO disease from businesses like ...

Re TEFL International -- DontheBon -- 1 July 2010

It might be just me but when I read your comments it seems like you were not at all interested in debate. You just attacked the course and the person. Why would anyone want to participate in a debate ...

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 1 July 2010

The purpose of my posts is not to please anybody. You see, there was a complaint by the OP in this thread on how Bruce's organisation dealt with deposits in that case. Then, Bruce came here to ...

Re TEFL International -- Sue -- 2 July 2010

But you were proven to be wrong. No apologies I notice.

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 2 July 2010

Proven to be wrong? Which proof, where?

Re: Re TEFL International -- TEFL Trainer -- 3 July 2010

DontheBon claims to know two teachers who were given free training from TEFL International in December of 2090. I am famiuliar with several more. This is called evidence that you are wrong. I hope ...

Re TEFL International -- John -- 2 July 2010

Turnoi, you are brave to speak up. I like reading your comments. Don't be cowed into silence by them.

Re TEFL International - Business and Course Content Review -- Turnoi -- 2 July 2010

John, thanks for the encouragement. I am well-known on this board for my stance on commercial providers, and I have said repeatedly that quality education and a business that claims to sell quality ...

Re: Re TEFL International - Business and Course Content Review -- TEFL Trainer -- 3 July 2010

Your basic premis is ludicrus. To suggest that all private eductional organizations are driven by money instead of educational quality is a ridiculous leap of logic. Some of the best educastional ...

Re TEFL International -- Sue -- 2 July 2010

John thats absurd! Bravery is not attacking people and things using a fake name!

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 2 July 2010

John thats absurd! Bravery is not attacking people and things using a fake name! Re the fake name you are mentioning, is it perhaps possible that "Sue" is good old Bruce himself? And since ...

Re TEFL International -- John -- 2 July 2010

Sue aka Bruce, when you point your finger at me and call me absurd, four fingers point back at you! Well, Turnoi has answered your point. You are trying, unashamedly, to defend your questionable ...

Re: Re TEFL International - a pretend business! -- Turnoi -- 3 July 2010

It really annoys me when I see posters using offensive language. One even has the audacity to use the impolite and offensive word “putz,” (it has a double meaning) to describe Turnoi. Someone using ...

Re: Re TEFL International//@ "TEFL Trainer" -- Turnoi -- 3 July 2010

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?read=30966 http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?read=30965 ...

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

Next, David Hopkins. SIT MA and nearly 40 years of hands-on teacher training. But you know better. The course content description on your site does not look very professional. Perhaps you should ask ...

Re TEFL International -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

Troll. You have never met Dave, you have never communicated with him, and you assume that he may not have kept up to date on teaching trends for 40 years. Hey his classmate was Donald Freeman (heard ...

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

Contents of a TEFL teacher training program are not "trivial issues". Perhaps your business is a trivial one with 100s of confusing sites and trivial confusing contents that are even ...

Re TEFL International -- KoreanKrazy -- 1 July 2010

Tornoi please stop. Its embarrassing for the rest of us. And minus 100 style points for using the American argument.

Re TEFL International -- Turnoi -- 1 July 2010

CEOs are one of those on my top agenda in the crappy world of ESL. There are too many crap provides, and it is something that needs to exposed and changed. It's interesting to see how Bruce is ...

Some more on TEFL International (found by googling) -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

Here is some information I have found when googling for "TEFL International Bruce Veldhuizen" (below). Without being able to really comment on the issues raised there, I would say that ...

Re Some more on TEFL International (found by googling) -- Bruce -- 28 June 2010

These posts are exactly my point. When you are dealing with an organization of our size, disputes occur. But how are those disputes resolved? Or are they even real? Because anyone with a keyboard and ...

"Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

You claim to be a non-profit organisation. I know there are many businesses with a claim of this status for tax exempt reasons. So, obviously "non-profit" (mere pretence) and non-profit (really ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

We are a 501 C 3 non profit organization designated as such by the US IRS and monitored by the Oregon Department of Justice. So you are saying that because we do not solicit donations we are less of ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

So you are saying that because we do not solicit donations we are less of a non profit organization than yours? Where did I say anything in my post regarding donations? What I have said is that you ...

Who has no credibility? -- DontheBon -- 2 July 2010

Turnoi, it just took me a little bit of research and I found it. The two classmates who took the course for free were Cristina CastXX and Narantsatralt ChimedtsXXXX. That was one group in December of ...

Re Who has no credibility? - Answer: Bruce and his TEFL International! -- Turnoi -- 2 July 2010

Yes, I stand by what I have said, and as far as I can see nothing to the contrary has been proven. I have also stated that I think/suspect that Bruce and his business are X, I have never said they ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Bruce -- 30 June 2010

Mr. Troll: I am afraid you are flat-out, dead wrong. Again. Honestly, whats your problem? Why the constant attacks and poorly-thought-out assumptions? Girlfriend mad at you? Boss yell at you? I am ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Turnoi -- 30 June 2010

Mr. Troll: Yes, the typical reaction of a CEO and an aggressive voice of an American. People like you are known for that. There are so many crap and pretend businesses in the crappy world of ESL, and ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- DontheBon -- 1 July 2010

I find this very interesting because I took the TEFL International course in December of 2009 in Ban Phe. I did not know Bruce well since he was only in and out. I did know Sean, though. Sean had ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Turnoi -- 1 July 2010

In fact, you really owe us all an apology. Why? Did Bruce ask you to post here as a "happy graduate"? I think I smell a rat! Bruce's business, TEFL International, is highly doubtful ...

Re "Non-profit" vs. non-profit -- Sue -- 2 July 2010

This is called changing the subject. We are not all dumb. You are making some enemies.

Lies and Deception by TEFL International? -- Turnoi -- 2 July 2010

You are making some enemies. Hahaha....because I am going to question this business of Bruce, TEFL International, which I think is a total joke? OK, big mouth, show me the "enemies".... I ...

Re: Lies and Deception by TEFL International? -- TEFL Trainer -- 3 July 2010

As a TEFL International trainer I have been instructed to ener into a discussion regarding course content. However I see no real reason to do so. You are indeed a troll and have no interst in ...

Gifts from the Troll and the Troll Community -- Turnoi -- 1 July 2010

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/forum/index.pl?read=62314 We are providing these materials free of charge to decent non-profit projects but not to those who are pretenders!

Re: Avoid Wuhan Railway Vocational College of Technology -- Dena -- 27 June 2010

I agree the living conditions are horrible. I had no water for two weeks and the bathroom was always full of water and growing mushrooms. I was told that was normal. Sorry not for me. Never teach ...

Re: Avoid Wuhan Railway Vocational College of Technology -- Dena -- 27 June 2010

Do not work here. The housing is horrible. I was promised a nice two bedroom apartment. I received a nasty dirty apt. I had no water for two weeks and it was a drug/whore house. I complained and sent ...

Re: York School of Foreign Languages/ Fuzhou -- J -- 26 June 2010

For crying out loud Grant, your English is not native! Does any recent (and genuine) foreign English teacher at this school have any detailed comments on this school? Pretty please.

Re: York School of Foreign Languages/ Fuzhou -- Mark Finnegan -- 3 July 2010

I worked for York for a year and a half. It's not the worst place in the world to work by any stretch of the imagination. In fact it's pretty decent. My current contract in a non-teaching job ...

Re NETWORK ESL - What are they? -- mark -- 26 June 2010

hello I cant give you any information on the ins and outs of how the company works but I have used there service once before when I first decided to come to china to work and in the process of using ...

Re Ahmed Bakran with Skyline Global Solutions in Pennsylvania -- Arianna -- 25 June 2010

Dear Mary, Hope all is well. This has been posted like 4 years ago, lol, but I was wondering did you go ahead and take the position?? If so, please let me know how it went

Re: YANG-EN UNIVERSITY, Quanzhou city.-Crap University!..DO NOT COME TO THIS SCHOOL -- Doctor Gene -- 25 June 2010

Yes, they have turned out to be a crap university. I would be embarrassed to be an instructor there.

Re: YANG-EN UNIVERSITY, Quanzhou city.-Crap University!..DO NOT COME TO THIS SCHOOL -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 25 June 2010

I would be embarrassed to be an instructor there. Yes, anybody who is a decent teacher and takes education seriously would be embarrassed. Another poster (Turnoi) has pointed out what the name of ...

Re: Esl Resource Group/ ERG -- Laurie -- 25 June 2010

I was wondering has anyone apply to this yet this seem like a too good of a deal, no requirements needed and everything is applied...please let me know because it is a trip to korea and a year ...

Re: BEWARE: FILIPINO TEACHERS!!!! - ESL school review -- concerned -- 24 June 2010

this is true.. this usjsc with the representation of Mr. JAMES BOLEMAN did this also for Nurses who promised employment to Switzerland.. Beware..

Re: BEWARE: FILIPINO TEACHERS!!!! - ESL school review -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 24 June 2010

This is all a scam, be careful!

Your introduction to ENLI school -- future ENLI teacher -- 23 June 2010

ENLI SCHOOL, TEDA TIANJIN People’s Republic of China June 7, 2010 To whom is may concern My name is Nidhi Singh, I’m writing to refer my experience with my previous employer “ENLI” during the tenure ...

Re: EF, English First, Istanbul -- overworked -- 23 June 2010

Fact is, EF Istanbul is not an EF franchise and is not related to the EF chain. They once were, but disassociated themselves with the chain. Their proper name now is EF (pronounced like the letter f) ...

Re: EF, English First, Istanbul -- englishgibson -- 23 June 2010

a few years back, i worked with a female canadian teacher that had come from the turkish EF school. she's had similar things to say. what a great "educational institution" and they sell ...

Re: EF, English First, Istanbul -- Turnoi -- 24 June 2010

They once were, but disassociated themselves with the chain. Their proper name now is EF (pronounced like the letter f) Institute Language School. Does that alone make them automatically any better? ...

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Re: Canada International School (CIS) and Topia in Ansan, South Korea -- Janet Lim -- 8 July 2010

Hello, I don't know exactly about the payment in Ansan campus. It is true that Ansan campus is one of CIS banches. However, Ansan is not under direct management of Mr.Kim, the president of CIS. ...

Re Canada International School (CIS) and Topia in Ansan, South Korea -- Nicole Nowakowski -- 24 June 2010

I am in the process of receiving a contract from CIS in Ansan. I have yet to accept or deny the position but will probably have to do so within the week. Any words of advice to help, please!??

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Re Canada International School (CIS) and Topia in Ansan, South Korea -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 25 June 2010

I would not accept this position if I were you. I would advise the same.

Re Canada International School (CIS) and Topia in Ansan, South Korea -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 24 June 2010

If I were you, I would decline the job offer as you would save yourself a lot of potential trouble. There are many other jobs at more reputable schools that you can find; so, declining the job offer ...

Re Canada International School (CIS) and Topia in Ansan, South Korea -- Nicole Nowakowski -- 25 June 2010

Yes, that is true that there are many more reputable schools, but what proof do I have that this testimonial is true? I have denied several contracts due to findings such as this. I was guaranteed ...

Re Canada International School (CIS) and Topia in Ansan, South Korea -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 25 June 2010

I have declined a job offer from them years ago. I have a good nose and what I smelled when I received their job offer was a rat. Instead of going there myself, I preferred to send them a cat to ...

Re Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Bethany Roberts -- 23 June 2010

Seems not all of this is untrue! I have friends working there now who are being bullied and victimised and can do nothing as no one cares. The bully has come from England as a manager but has no idea ...

Re: Re Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Bethany Roberts -- 6 July 2010

Further to my last - things are getting really bad! The bullying is continuing and this manager woman is now observing the teachers - what does she know? - and marking down her least favourites! ...

Re: Re Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 6 July 2010

All foreign teachers should leave this disgusting place of slave traders immediately!

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Bruce -- 23 June 2010

Ann took her dispute to the BBB and lost. But, because we try to treat people fairly, we allowed her to take another course without penalty. The BBB actually said her deposit was lost and we owed her ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- cunning linguist -- 27 June 2010

"Next, our course feedback is available ONLINE. If you want to see the feedback for China or Thailand or ANYWHERE, just go to http://tefllife.force.com/ as all of our feedback is available, ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Bruce -- 27 June 2010

No... No registration is necessary. Anyone can see it. WOW there is an error. It was not like that just a few days ago! I will get right on this.... BV

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 24 June 2010

You have obviously come here to blow the trumpet for your business. Why should anyone around here care? Do you really care about the malpractices in the crappy world of ESL?

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Bruce -- 24 June 2010

Actually if you try reading my post you see I was actually providing only facts for people looking for accurate information. TEFL International is a member in good standing with the BBB so anyone who ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 24 June 2010

Selling yourself as such a "wonderful" TEFL provider is a legitimate thing if you do it as an advertisement declared as such. This is not the case here. For Reading Comprehension skills, in ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Bruce -- 26 June 2010

LOL OK Admiral. You want to argue semantics on a discussion board. Its your right. But here is a request. And its pretty easy. In my previous two posts, quote the actual praise I give to our course. ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 27 June 2010

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?read=30738 Its been 12 years now and we have had a total of 12 complaints filed (out of 13,000 students). Your claim is that you have had ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Bruce -- 27 June 2010

I am not inflating or exaggerating anything. I gave facts. 13,000+ grads. Its not difficult to do the math or to verify. Complaints--for an exact number and results of each one just contact the BBB. ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 29 June 2010

And your apparent lies about your success as an admiral are a really poor attempt to belittle my information. How do you know they are "lies"? You will certainly have a clue when I tell ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

The Bruce poster is the CEO of that organisation, and therefore it is quite clear why he is trying to have his own statements appear in a different light.... To return to the OP's original ...

Re WARNING - TEFL International in Thailand -- Bruce -- 28 June 2010

First of all, it might be a good idea to do a bit more research before posting. Just because a company has a website does not make it an online company. TEFL International is a US (Oregon-based) ...

Deposits -- Turnoi -- 29 June 2010

Maybe, I am wrong in assuming that your business is an online provider. I don't have the time to check that out; most of your sites dealing with the same business are somewhat contradictory and ...

Re: WALTON SCHOOL GUANGZHOU -- annoyed teacher -- 21 June 2010

Yes Walton is a crappy place, they do not care for the teachers Foreign, Chinese, or Japanese whatsoever. For your info Ted, the company is owned by a Japanese company called MOON, it is ran by a ...

Re: WALTON SCHOOL GUANGZHOU -- Turnoi -- 21 June 2010

A zoo? Is that white-faced monkeys in a muppet show???? Yeah, may be ZOO is the best word to describe them as they do not seem to be a "school" at all. ...and they have a zoo currently

Re: WALTON SCHOOL GUANGZHOU -- annoyed teacher -- 25 June 2010

Turnoi...your right! Its not a school, and is operating under another pseudonym also ...HUADU INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY ....so please be warned by those of us in the know and not be duped by ...

Re: WALTON SCHOOL GUANGZHOU -- Turnoi -- 25 June 2010

I hope you will not be annoyed any longer after being able to land another, better job somewhere else. BTW, I have heard that they have enlarged their zoo quite a bit...In addition to white monkeys, ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 21 June 2010

Well of course you are bloody-well free to travel in the holidays, for the simple reason that Yuming's clients don't want you during these periods; however, unlike many school jobs you ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Al -- 20 June 2010

Yeah, If I knew how bad this place was I wouldn't work either. Some of the Chinese teachers are a real f*ckup. I needed to send a student into an adjacent classroom to take a test. there was only ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- JO -- 20 June 2010

Hello I have taught at this Centre in Omdurman and my time there was not very pleasant. Firstly they are extremely disorganized and too top heavy in management that have no knowledge in EFL or in the ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 28 June 2010

Those who are running the place are disorganised (as you say) because they lack professional competence. What's even worse, they are into bullying other people - they have done that regularly ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 20 June 2010

As you like any other reader may deduce from the postings in this thread, that CITC can never be recommended for work to foreign teachers. It is not only because of how the incompetent management are ...

Re aclipse.net and bridgetokorea.com -- NYgirl -- 20 June 2010

I just got hired through aclipse. They are great.

Re aclipse.net and bridgetokorea.com -- Turnoi -- 20 June 2010

I have heard that Aclipse is the wife of Eclipse, and I do not know who of them is the "better" part...LOL As they are recruiters, I would advise the necessary caution anyway! Make sure ...

CCI/Greenheart Travel Korea -- Natale -- 20 June 2010

Has anyone had any experience with CCI (Center for Cultural Interchange) or Greenheart Travel? I am applying to teach in Seoul in August 2010 and I can't find anything on the web about reviews or ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Tom -- 20 June 2010

I've only just spotted your post. Yes, it was "Ian the Excellent"; however, he truly was, and also a nice man, if a little frightening by his bulk and cold blue eyes that would cut ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Turnoi -- 21 June 2010

I've only just spotted your post. Yes, it was "Ian the Excellent"; however, he truly was, and also a nice man, if a little frightening by his bulk and cold blue eyes that would cut ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Tom -- 21 June 2010

Well unfortunately I think there's little chance of IELTS going broke any time soon. For starters most new teachers who come to China don't see these warnings we give- I don't suppose it ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Turnoi -- 21 June 2010

Or, to be fair to pressurised FT's, the good pretend to be bad in order to appear good in MR River's eyes........or was it the bad pretending to be good to appear bad which is really good- ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Tom -- 22 June 2010

It is true that the grasp of English that some FT's have is a bit iffy when English is not truly their first language, irrespective of colour; however, if you maintain you have a foreign English ...

Re: yuncheng ielts -- Turnoi -- 22 June 2010

True - equal work, equal pay regardless of place of origin or whatever. Yuncheng IELTS is the world champion in cheating - in all respects!

Re: TeacherMexConnect -- Melanie Vortex -- 19 June 2010

I got a job through them. I am working in Costa Rica.

Stay Away From Zhuji Ronghuai School -- Seba -- 18 June 2010

Although it's been a while since I taught there I would like to warn you against Ronghuai School. The only good thing they offer is the money. The awful aspects of the job include smelly ...

Re Stay Away From Zhuji Ronghuai School -- Turnoi -- 19 June 2010

Does "smelly accomodation" refer to public schools toilets near your apartment? If so, I would not wonder. Have had that myself for a short time. That and the fact that you have to deal ...

Re lingnan college,guangzhou - ESL school review -- Jason -- 18 June 2010

Racism in China, suprise suprise. If you experience racism as much as I experience reverse racism (higher prices and better treatment for white western face) I don't even know why you would want ...

Re: lingnan college,guangzhou - ESL school review -- Jason -- 18 June 2010

Lignan has offered me a job. Could you tell me what to expect? Is it the basic Chinese Educational cycle-of-self-destruction or is there something more sinister?

Warning - Stay away from OeDae Hagwon Dongtan/Hwaseong, Korea -- Sean -- 18 June 2010

***WARNING*** Stay away from HUFS OeDae Language School (OeDae Academy) in Hwaseong/Dongtan. The school was shut down by the Korean Ministry of Education for employing a Korean English teacher with ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Tom -- 16 June 2010

For most of us who come to China and work, we come knowing full well it's not a career move and it's not going to be a proper job (we can earn more than 10,000 RMB staying home and cleaning ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Turnoi -- 16 June 2010

Your input: None of us arrive with a diploma on dealing with exceedingly tricky, underhand and unfriendly people, of which you'll find a wall to wall assortment at Witty's hallowed glass ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Tom -- 17 June 2010

Yep, I agree, and perhaps foreign teachers should be advised to support each other when outfits like Witty are trying to do them out of money {travel reimbursements, days off that were worked, lies ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Turnoi -- 17 June 2010

Well, I have lived abroad for a long time in different countries and different cultures.... I enjoyed Korea, years ago..no real problems at all; the same for Taiwan, Nepal, and Japan. I have had less ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Tom -- 18 June 2010

Hello Turnoi Well, I've had "do as the Romans do" and "remember you're in China now" levelled at me for objecting about them not adhering to my contract and other ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Turnoi -- 18 June 2010

Hi, I have made some replies below the relevant portions of your text. Well, I've had "do as the Romans do" and "remember you're in China now" levelled at me for objecting ...

Re: Witty International English / Tianjin and Jokes -- Tom -- 19 June 2010

Yes, you can't stick to your guns every time when you feel that Chinese employers renegade on the contract or present you with a restriction that they didn't inform you about before you ...

Re: New Dynamic Institute NDI Shanghai -- My Name is -- 16 June 2010

it's late, i'm tired, i'm going to bed soon so i'll make it quick and dirty (and i won't check my spelling:) I've been at the hongkou NDI for over three years, get paid 16500 ...

Re: New Dynamic Institute NDI Shanghai -- Laowai -- 16 June 2010

NDI Shanghai is a useless training center that should be closed down asap. The rightful "bashing" is going on!

Balloon Kids - Be wary! -- Harry -- 16 June 2010

Although they will state that they have nine satisfied native English teachers employed with them, this is far from a good choice of employment options if you want to work in Tokyo. I have only been ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan Abu Sham -- 14 June 2010

i need HELP I have a genius sun , he is very clever boy , he is in an american school , he has a scholarship, but i HOOOOOPPPPE he can obtain a scholarship in THE SCHOOL OF LIFE, i had an ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 15 June 2010

Why don't you look at it from another angle: Perhaps, you should be happy for your son that he is not at this "school". This "school" seems to be a total mess and just makes ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan -- 20 June 2010

The school of life told me that they son't give any scholarship for any one The problem is that my sun doesn't want his current school , and i don't want to put him in any regular school, ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 20 June 2010

Well, do as you like, but you have been warned!

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan -- 21 June 2010

You misapprehend my previouse message, i am searching for another school , please advice me which school can i ask for that scholarship, i need a school which can build up my sun's educational ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 21 June 2010

What other excellent schools are there in Amman? Or are you looking for a school abroad?

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan -- 21 June 2010

No dear, i want a school in Amman, for example Amman Academy is a good school plus it is very expensive , also Bachaloria school, Shweifat school , the New English school, Cambridge school. today i ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Turnoi -- 22 June 2010

Sorry, I can't help you. But I hope you can send your son somewhere without high expensive school fees so as to make him develop his talents. "The School of Life" in Amman is a place ...

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan -- 22 June 2010

Many thanks dear for your advice. Hope God bring the best for all.

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan -- 7 July 2010

What happened to Seham Mubarak, Principal of The School of Life - Jordan. I saw her name removed from the website.What is the reason she removed from the School?

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Sawsan -- 11 July 2010

wow that's great..it might be good experience for the school

Re: The School of Life, Amman, Jordan - ESL school review -- Wu Wei -- 9 July 2010

I have heard the Principal has taken a flying carpet and went to India. Do you know whether this is true?

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- Big Ed -- 14 June 2010

Dear James - My bi-cultural friend & Mastery Phase Man: In the four stages of culture shock you were obviously in n the mastery stage at the time you wrote that post. The mastery stage is one ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- The Owl -- 14 June 2010

The best post I ever read on this site in years and years.

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- Big Ed -- 14 June 2010

P/S For your information James - Teaching is a profession, not a career. Singing in a band is a career.

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- The Dustman -- 15 June 2010

For your information James - Teaching is a profession, not a career. Correct, teaching is a profession and NOT a career! For this reason, a professional teacher with a bit of integrity should not ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- The Shaker -- 15 June 2010

Singing in a band is a career. No, that's a profession, too. Grovelling weasels in a chorus, with one of them whispering and the other barking etc., is a career and not a profession because they ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- Big Ed -- 23 June 2010

My dear Bi-Cultural friend, After all these years of teaching I'm surprised that you still don't know the difference between a professional and a profession. May I yada some more here and ...

Re: Web International Suzhou, China - ESL school review -- Jambo -- 24 June 2010

"Professional" and "profession" are inter-related and not two different entities as you suggest. Let's say that what you have written is your very own perception of the world ...

Oqiao School of Foreign Languages, Yinchuan - worth a gig? -- Angelica -- 14 June 2010

Does anyone have any information regarding what working for that school would be like? Their ad gives the impression that it would be a great gig. I'm wondering if that is in fact the case!

Re Oqiao School of Foreign Languages, Yinchuan - worth a gig? -- The Shaker -- 15 June 2010

No, not really worth a gig but well worth a joke - they employ pandas there to teach Chinglish!

Re Oqiao School of Foreign Languages, Yinchuan - worth a gig? -- kjk -- 22 June 2010

I know this school in Yinchuan and I have done some volunteering there for the owners when I go there to visit Yinchuan and I have worked with head master (Rita) at another school. They are a small ...

Re: New Century School, Dalian - ESL school review -- Greg -- 14 June 2010

I also worked here,I was asked to post on this and other sites by the boss man.I still have the email saved.They are asking teachers and some of their staff to fabricate posts to try and entice ...

Re: New Century School, Dalian - ESL school review -- william -- 27 June 2010

I also worked here.It all started well enough,everyone seems so nice and happy.Then I finished my contract and decided to leave I wanted to continue my experiences in Beijing. They refused to give me ...

Re: New Century School, Dalian - ESL school review -- Admiral Major Whitherbottom -- 27 June 2010

I have no idea why they act so maliciously,I can only assume they have the attitude,if you don't work for us you will work for nobody.Such a shame they are still able to run this Place. Yes, ...

Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Karen B -- 14 June 2010

Sounds like a glamorous place to work -- but think again. The uni is located a few miles outside Sanya -- down a dusty, dirt road that is frequently closed to traffic during the rainy season, when it ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Nick C -- 20 June 2010

Hi Karen B I was thinking about going to China/Hainan to teach.Are you going to stay in Sanya/Hainan and teach? I have heard that there are some universities/colleges in another city there called ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Karen B -- 20 June 2010

When I contacted the PSB about the problems with QU, they recommended Sanya College, and said they would help me to transfer over there. We're opting not to do that at this time, because of ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Nick C -- 20 June 2010

Hi again Karen B Would you have the website address or any contact information (names, emails.phone numbers etc.) for this school in Wenchang.I googled it but can't find any information on it. ...

Tell the truth about Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Bob -- 19 June 2010

After reading her indignant words, I seem to see that terrible face again. What an intention of retaliation she harbors just because she was kicked our off China due to her ruffianlike behaviour and ...

Re Tell the truth about Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Turnoi -- 19 June 2010

The language of your post sounds somehow Chinglish, but apart from that, I cannot follow your arguments contained therein. And I do not trust any of your words!

Re Tell the truth about Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Karen B -- 19 June 2010

Ha ha, "Bob" -- everyone knows you are Victoria -- the FAO who embezzles the salaries and housing allowances of foreign teachers. And, no, actually, I haven't been kicked out of China. I still ...

Re Tell the truth about Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Turnoi -- 19 June 2010

I think I smell a rat. This pretend Bob posting here then in reality must be the FAO pocketing parts of your money as you say. Is it perhaps possible that he is from that famous Li ethnic minority ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- school administrator -- 19 June 2010

A response from the administration: Qhiongzhou University Thanks for your information. I understand your concern, but do you know what a guy she is? A lier, a cheater and a totally irresponsible ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Karen B -- 19 June 2010

Aha...we hear from the notorious FAO at Qiongzhou U -- if she were to show her supervisor copies of of her own bank records -- it would be quickly demonstrated that full salaries and housing ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Turnoi -- 15 June 2010

Interesting message: This new university campus was built immediately adjacent to a village of the Li ethnic minority -- and this particular village is renowned in the area for being the home of ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Rin -- 18 June 2010

Woah! Thanks for the heads up! I'm hoping to head to Hainan at some point, but I will definitely be avoiding this place!

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Turnoi -- 19 June 2010

Or take some crocodiles with you in order to protect yourself against some nasty Li people who are out to kidnap and enslave you...LOL

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Karen B -- 19 June 2010

As far as the Li people go -- most of them are lovely people -- they have a wonderful culture, and their weaving, singing, dancing -- all of this is beautiful. I have had Li students for 8 years, and ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- not bob -- 1 July 2010

Hi almost everything Karen B has written is the truth. I need to help clear up 1 thing and maybe this will explain all the misunderstandings in pay. Karen, is it not true that you and your husband ...

Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Jay -- 2 July 2010

Teaching at Qiong Zhou is a definite challenge. The lack of foreign teacher housing and problems this creates are significant. Also, the cost of living in Sanya is very high. The purpose of my ...

Re: Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- bob's brother -- 5 July 2010

Way to go Jay!...but the damage has already been done..this post has spread far and wide across the reaches of cyberspace.Google it and you'll see what I mean.You did forget to mention why you ...

Re: Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Turnoi -- 5 July 2010

I know a very qualified couple who would love to teach at Qiongzhou University. Their names are Eclipse and Aclipse, with Aclipse being the wife of Eclipse. Their familie name is Crocodilus nilensis ...

Re: Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- bob's other brother -- 6 July 2010

HUH?....crocodiles...it evades me..what post are you replying to?

Re: Re Beware Qiongzhou University in Sanya, Hainan Island, China -- Bob's grandmother -- 9 July 2010

The reply was made to the brother of Bob's brother. The role of crocodiles can fulfill an essential role as they may give a big bite to the Li people whenever they want to kidnap a decent foreign ...

pay and such -- KarenB -- 8 July 2010

Just to clarify a few things written by my colleagues... No...my husband never wanted to work fulltime. The original plan was for him not to work at all at QU -- but then the school called right ...

Re: pay and such -- Bob's Brother's other Brother -- 9 July 2010

Please beware of Bob's other brother's crocodiles...... But perhaps they are only paper tigers acting as puppets on strings in a muppet show.....LOL

Re: pay and such -- bob's sister -- 9 July 2010

Wha....do I see some "back-peddling" here?..Charts...who would use charts for salaries?...what kind of chart..a "pie chart".Was your piece of the pie the too small? Did you get that "ala mode"? ...

charts -- KarenB -- 20 July 2010

Ha ha! Well, I'm the chart queen. In fact, I even taught seminars to students on how to read charts and explain them (that was for some speech competition). Anyway, the chart in question had ...

Re: charts -- Don't shoot the messenger -- 3 August 2010

Sorry to say Karen, but it seems all that your "badmouthing" of Qiongzhou U has backfired and all it has done is provide them with free advertising across all of cyberspace. Only sparking peoples ...

Re: charts - "DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" -- another dissatisfied teacher -- 12 August 2010

"DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" This is a very bad school.I was only there one month before having problems with everything from housing to salary.The classrooms are a ...

Re: YANG-EN UNIVERSITY, Quanzhou city...DO NOT COME TO THIS SCHOOL -- Turnoi -- 13 June 2010

Whenever I hear something like this: She had been living there for many years and has a highly successful intellectual and business background in Canada. , then my alarm bells would ring: "A ...

Re: YANG-EN UNIVERSITY, Quanzhou city...DO NOT COME TO THIS SCHOOL -- Ken -- 13 June 2010

madam wu? You sir are really, really stupid. Sh is an evil spoiled child and the worse failure of her father. Come to Yang En and see for yourself when they try to save a mao at the expense of your ...

Re: YANG-EN UNIVERSITY - The name says it all! -- Turnoi -- 14 June 2010

I have made the efforts to provide an English translation of their name::. I think the name says it all: "Do-me-a-favour" University.... What favour? Provide students with a fake degree or ...

Re: VIP China of Beijing -- Mitch -- 13 June 2010

I agree with haha and want to suggest that Into... is one of those people who has lot's of textbook knowledge but no common sense. Goldwyn told me that I'd be getting a job in Xinjiang. then ...

Yang En University -- Ken -- 13 June 2010

It hurts me to say this. but since the founder died five years ago, his daughter has ruined the school. They also have stood in the way if foreign and Chinese teachers from gettin medical treatment. ...

Re: VIP China -- Mitch -- 13 June 2010

You're all dickheads. As if all native English speakers have perfect grammar. Actually I take that back in the case of Turnoi and Silverboy. "The best in the county" and ...

Re: VIP China -- Turnoi -- 13 June 2010

...and the textbooks they produce are riddled with errors! I barely use it. I am sure they made illegal copies from the textbooks that had been written by my crocodiles in China. They contain many, ...

Re: Chongching Foreign Language Institute -- Turnoi -- 12 June 2010

Chongqing Foreign Language Institute is one of the many crappy training centres in China. If I were you, I would look somewhere else.

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- John Mewburn -- 10 June 2010

It is obvious that the writer has no idea about the system for university accreditation in Indonesia, nor about the time frame involved. It takes at least four years for a major to become accredited. ...

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- Turnoi -- 11 June 2010

Well, I remember looking at the website of that "President University" and have some serious doubts whether it is really one and not only degree mill. I know what a site of a decent uni ...

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- John Mewburn -- 12 June 2010

Yes I have my suspicions about who the supposed reincarnation of Hannibal is. However about you, I have no idea. Obviously though you are not an English teacher. Your written English is so bad even ...

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- Turnoi -- 12 June 2010

Yes, I have my suspicions about who the supposed reincarnation of Hannibal is. However, about you, I have no idea. Obviously though you are not an English teacher**incomplete sentence. Your written ...

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- Turnoi -- 12 June 2010

Your input is the usual rant from a degree mill operator and/or one of their lackeys after getting caught....hahaha Grovelling weasel in action; their species in Indonesia seem to be degree mill ...

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- Joshua Davis -- 12 June 2010

My name is Joshua Davis and I am not Hannibal Lecturer. I actually received this post 2 months ago from a friend of mine who was doing the usual job hunt as he was returning from China back to ...

Pretend President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- Turnoi -- 12 June 2010

Look at the posts of that "John Mewburn" in this thread - a "lecturer of English" with far too many punctuation and some less numerous spelling and wording problems in his text. ...

Re: President University, Kota Jababeka Cikarang Baru Bekasi -- John Mewburn -- 12 June 2010

Ususally I don't bother to reply to twits, especially blind ones, however in your case I will make an exception. If you had actually looked at the President University website, as you claimed you ...

Expose pretend President University - it's time for a change! -- Turnoi -- 13 June 2010

Exactly, there are many folks around here who are working for a change - crappy training centres, degree mills, pretend universities like that President thing in Indonesia are high on our lists of ...

Re: Chongching Foreign Language Institute -- drjon -- 10 June 2010

Beware!!!! This is an agent with strange contracts. I have hired several teachers away from this place and they all have the same story. Try going through an actual school not a place that will send ...

NE Portlland Private English School -- Angela Smith -- 10 June 2010

There is a private school in NE Portland that is advertising for teachers with Masters degrees. They pay peanuts and have no real benefits. Also, they treat their student horrible. Please do not ...

Re: Green Oasis School in Shenzhen, China -- hlsinki -- 9 June 2010

This is all true.......... J G[edited] needs to go. He [edited] behaviour outside of school and his poor managment skills inside of the school, has caused a huge amount of damage to the welfare of ...

OWEN Foreign Language School -- englishgibson -- 9 June 2010

Once, about half a year ago, I posted my sad experience with this company in Chongqing's GAC center and how I lost some money traveling to this place and renting a home suggested by the employer. ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 10 June 2010

Is this OWEN(s) you are talking about Owing Bucks' famous place? From time to time, we can read complaints about Owens' "school" that FTs were not paid. Must be an incredibly shitty place to ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- englishgibson -- 10 June 2010

Turnoi, this isn't Owen Bucks but the management sure puts the "bucks" in front of anything. They'd suck up to anyone and enroll them into the "Owen Foreign Language school courses" ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 10 June 2010

I am the person from Seattle mentioned in this post. I do say that there may have been some issues with the GAC program but the person with the biggest problem is this poster. He has blamed his ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- englishgibson -- 11 June 2010

Dave and I have, in fact, never met, and then he has never visited the unfortunate GAC center in Chongqing, when I was working there. Moreover, Dave has never been OFFICIALLY appointed as either my ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 12 June 2010

Open the door all you want. You did an end run around me when you first did your contract and ended up signing for less money than I would have arranged. Not very smart on your part. I have been at ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- englishgibson -- 14 June 2010

Dave J is a liar. He has never met me, never come to the unfortunate center during my stay there, and then he hasn't listened to my distress call on which he rudely hung up. Prior to his fine ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 15 June 2010

Never said my job is dreadfull and you just go on about so many things you know nothing about. I have noticed that anytime teachers make good comments about schools or try to say something positive ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- englishgibson -- 16 June 2010

Dave J liar, is that all you have to say? You came on this topic knowing little about it and you offered little in a form of lies and deception in your posts. Cheers and beers to ya

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 17 June 2010

This is mostly how these fancy Chinese "schools" involved in the GAC deception business work. What else could you expect? You came on this topic knowing little about it and you offered ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 16 June 2010

@ Dave J I do not think that this is the point: I have noticed that anytime teachers make good comments about schools or try to say something positive they are attacked. Several posters in this ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Timmy -- 16 June 2010

You are advising the poster 'englishgibson' to go home if he thinks its so bad working as an FT here in China. I doubt very much said poster would ever think it's as bad as that. Compared ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Laowai -- 16 June 2010

Training centers are the pits. Whether those working for training centers are like the pits, too, is something that cannot be said for sure in general. Regardless of that, it is a fact that they are ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- disgusted -- 12 June 2010

: You did an end run around me when you first did your contract and ended up signing for less money than I would have arranged. Typical unethical training center tactics. They'll cheat not only ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 13 June 2010

This poster has no idea what he is talking about..Of course salaries vary. It is the same here and in the US. If you have more experience you will receive higher pay in most cases. There is usually a ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 13 June 2010

Let's return to the main issue: The fact is that this GAC thing is a highly doubtful product that needs to be questioned in terms of its value and usefulness for Chinese students. Given the ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 15 June 2010

I love crocs

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 16 June 2010

OK, would you allow them to help you?...LOL

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- Monitor -- 14 June 2010

Just to reiterate what the core problem with GAC is here in mainland China - the students who end up studying GAC do so primarily because of their parents' ability to pay the high tuition fees ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- englishgibson -- 15 June 2010

Monitor, I quite agree with you on what the core problem with GAC is. The GAC assessments are compromised by the local subscribers and the power of parents' money and mainlanders have quickly ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School - GAC/ACT crap -- Turnoi -- 15 June 2010

It's safe to say that most if not all GACs on mainland are dishonest, but if I can make a difference in a youngster's life... EG, you cannot make a difference in a youngster's life in ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- Turnoi -- 14 June 2010

Foreign teachers who wish to preserve their integrity should avoid applying for teaching posts at GAC/ACT centers on mainland. Exactly, it is the same I have said in my posts on this topic. I am ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- Dave J -- 15 June 2010

Actually the GAC center was a very small part of the school here. Most of the teachers here..yes there are 60 despite of what another person claims....do not even know we had such a place. My ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- The Dustman -- 14 June 2010

I think that Turnoi's most gifted crocs would do quite well in that GAC test. They do not know how to count until ten but have a big mouth like all those Chinese students from rich Chinese ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- Monitor -- 14 June 2010

Just to reiterate what the core problem with GAC is here in mainland China - the students who end up studying GAC do so primarily because of their parents' ability to pay the high tuition fees ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School GAC/ACT SCAM -- Riverina -- 14 June 2010

And guess what happens when Chinese students who have 'passed' GAC on mainland go abroad to study at university? Many of them are sent down during or at the end of their first year of study. ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- disgusted -- 13 June 2010

This poster has no idea what he is talking about..Of course salaries vary. It is the same here and in the US. If you have more experience you will receive higher pay in most cases. There is usually a ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- On behalf of Disgusted -- 13 June 2010

I never said salaries for teachers don't vary in the West. But what I DID say was that they are determined by the actual employer in line with strict regulations re a job applicant's academic ...

Re: Owing Bucks to FTs Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 11 June 2010

Well, I must say that it is hard to believe what you are saying about the E G[edited] poster. I may not always agree with him on certain issues, but he is known to other posters here and elsewhere ...

Re: Owing Bucks to FTs Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 11 June 2010

I never said I was great or that this center is perfect. I have experience in China since the late 70s and i am here not because I can not find employment in The US. I was doing very well there and I ...

Re: Owing Bucks to FTs - Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 12 June 2010

Believe me , it is very difficult at times to be the buffer between the Chinese management, the government, and the foreign staff. Well, if you claim to have this experience in China (since the 70s, ...

Re: Owing Bucks to FTs - Foreign Language School -- Dave J -- 13 June 2010

ha the money is nothing here and not much of a concern to me. Actually the GAC center was just a very small portion of this schools business...and lets be clear..all these places are business ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Paul -- 11 June 2010

"I do say that there may have been some issues with the GAC program", said Dave J. In my opinion, what you have said above is a gross underestimation of the serious educational malpractice that is ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Noddy -- 11 June 2010

The poster 'englishgibson' has made two cardinal errors: First, he used bad language when criticising his lazy and/or dull Chiense students. Second, he dared to criticise the Chiense ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 11 June 2010

Very typical - the emphasis on "good money" in your post. I think it says it all. The product GAC or whatever it may be called is one of the things that China does not need at all. Most of ...

Re: OWEN Foreign Language School -- englishgibson -- 12 June 2010

Noddy, I bet many on may appreciate your point of view, but how have you come to this "cardinal" conlusion? Have you worked there? Have you met either the GAC Chongqing students or the pro ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Jayden Taller -- 9 June 2010

You should learn to read correctly. The website clearly states "those already in China are preferred, as it simplifies the process" And so much more you claim isn't there on the advertisement.

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 10 June 2010

You should learn to read correctly. The website clearly states "those already in China are preferred, as it simplifies the process" That website is not professionally done to represent a real school. ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- jer_whist -- 11 June 2010

It takes little to no skill to read an employers complete headline to know who they are. They don't exist? Tell that to the thousands of the school students taught there every day. Tell it to the ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Al -- 20 June 2010

I have a job. I was looking for a summer gig when i sent in a simple request. Like other complainants, i was given the link to Middle Kingdom, then a b*tching out by some juvenile little jerk who ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Another One -- 7 June 2010

I justed wanted to say that I am another "victim" of the recruiter for this school. I also attempted to ask a simple question regarding the school and employment only to be met with the same link to ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Jayden Taller -- 8 June 2010

I justed wanted to say that I am another "victim" of the recruiter for this school. I also attempted to ask a simple question regarding the school and employment only to be met with the same link to ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Jayden Taller -- 7 June 2010

I justed wanted to say that I am another "victim" of the recruiter for this school. I also attempted to ask a simple question regarding the school and employment only to be met with the same link to ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 7 June 2010

That "recruiter" seems to be a total clown, and what you have reported has happened to other people posting in this thread, MiddleKingdom life is not at all connected with this International Language ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Another One -- 7 June 2010

And as far as the Middle Kingdom advice goes, it doesn't take into consideration the enormous amounts of scams out there (though it is good advice). Regardless, I am not going to send all my ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Jayden Taller -- 7 June 2010

And as far as the Middle Kingdom advice goes, it doesn't take into consideration the enormous amounts of scams out there (though it is good advice). Regardless, I am not going to send all my ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- M. Fallows -- 7 June 2010

Hey Turkey Boy (aka brooksdara): You made a lot of threats in your email to me after I objected to your rather brusque reply to my request for information. I tried to contact the policeman whom you ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- amazed -- 8 June 2010

Ridiculous. You all claim this person is such an asshole and yet you spend such time on it. I lived in Jinan and know all about this school. You don't know what you're talking about.

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 8 June 2010

Are you this Jayden Taller guy posting here under another alias? Your TF Taishan thing that you claim to know must be a "school" in cyberspace that nobody has ever heard of and that in reality does ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Rattesnake -- 9 June 2010

Ridiculous. You all claim this person is such an asshole and yet you spend such time on it. The person, namely Jayden Taller baby, is a highly unprofessional wonna-be-recruiter who can't even ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Blacklister -- 8 June 2010

This outfit garbage has been blacklisted already - HERE in this thread! And it is clear for everyone to see what the mindset of Jayden Baby is like! In his postings, he is presenting himself like a ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- blacklisterinuk -- 8 June 2010

A blacklist? That'll be the day

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 8 June 2010

Well done, you have set him straight! People like that are a nuisance and a shame to all decent Western teachers in China and to the teaching profession as a whole. We need not have any more proofs; ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- doloctored -- 8 June 2010

Actually, any school can provide a link to any site they want

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Lawyer -- 9 June 2010

Actually, any school can provide a link to any site they want No, they cannot without the expressive site owner's consent. That's law!

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Jayden Taller -- 9 June 2010

No. It's not. Any information, especially something as innocuous as a website page address sent between one party and another by e-mail is nothing of any sort. Providing a link on, say my web ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Short and Fat -- 26 June 2010

This is what I love about the internet and China. You can be whatever you want to be without any credentials whatsoever. You can say whatever you want to say without any backlash. Everyone's an ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 7 June 2010

Explain how a legally authorized public school should be considered a scammer. You are not quite logical as you assume certain things to be that we are not sure of whether they are really there. We ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 7 June 2010

And as far as the Middle Kingdom advice goes, it doesn't take into consideration the enormous amounts of scams out there (though it is good advice). Regardless, I am not going to send all my ...

Update on Middle Kingdom Life site -- Turnoi -- 8 June 2010

Here is a brief update: I have contacted and informed the Middle Kingdom Life site owner about the bad practice of unscrupulous and incompetent recruiters from that Taishan Village something. They ...

Re: Update on Middle Kingdom Life site -- Grow Up -- 8 June 2010

Actually, to be fair, ANYBODY can provide a link via e-mail TO ANYBODY they want.

Re: Update on Middle Kingdom Life site -- Turnoi -- 9 June 2010

Actually, to be fair, ANYBODY can provide a link via e-mail TO ANYBODY they want. Jayden Taller boy is a recruiter and has advertised jobs for FTs in China. When applicants contact him and ask him ...

Job application to International Language Village of TFLS...LOL -- Turnoi -- 7 June 2010

I just sent the email below to their email address (I got it from their site) - I hope they would consider at least my crocs to be worthy of their association...LOL Would be interested to see their ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- TFLS is Rude -- 7 June 2010

Aside from myself and 3 other people who have said this recruiter is very rude, notice their very tactful statement on their website contact page: http://ilvtaian.x10.mx/contactus.html We DO NOT want ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Marlowe -- 7 June 2010

I think Mr. Personality, the school's mouthpiece (who seems to be on You-Know-Who's ESL Frappe 24/7 giving bad advice) got the boot from Cafe Land. He was on at 2:30 am then again on at 4:00 ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Jayden Taller -- 7 June 2010

side from myself and 3 other people who have said this recruiter is very rude, notice their very tactful statement on their website contact page: http://ilvtaian.x10.mx/contactus.html We DO NOT want ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School - Jayden -- Rudness -- 9 June 2010

Wow, Jayden. Thank you for so eloquently showing people the meaning of rude and tactless. Maybe you should look up the difference between sarcasm and wit because I think you may be confusing the two ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Marlowe -- 7 June 2010

I think Mr. Personality, the school's mouthpiece (who seems to be on You-Know-Who's ESL Frappe 24/7 giving bad advice) got the boot from Cafe Land. He was on at 2:30 am then again on at 4:00 ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- The Rattlesnake -- 7 June 2010

I think Mr. Personality, the school's mouthpiece... It is quite a new thing to me that this "school"'s mouthpiece should have a personality. I think that Mr. Soandso left it back home in his ...

Re: International Language Village of TFLS, Taishan - Taishan Foreign Language School -- Turnoi -- 7 June 2010

Makes you wonder where he lives when he's not circling Jupiter. He must have a flying carpet, that explains it all......

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 6 June 2010

But maybe you should try it, as you have previously said you have additional income not connected to teaching. No, I would not try - it would be hell for me, believe me! Fortunately enough, I have a ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Tom -- 17 June 2010

I attended an interview at diabolical Yuming. Being experienced with Chinese employers and their contracts I didn't return of course. There is sometimes smoke without fire but I have rarely[mean ...