School and Recruiter Reviews

Anyone know Chinaus? -- Jake Spears -- 3 February 2012

Hi Does anyone know China-us Kindergarten (Chinaus) in Shenzhen, OCT Nanshan district? Any feed back would help, they offered me a job. Thank you

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- hippy Sarah -- 2 February 2012

oh wonderful - I am in the process of applying here and this does not look great. :/ hmmmmm

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Silverboy -- 2 February 2012

Just keep the hell away from that place or you will be sorry! Don't just take my word for it. Many posters will back me up in regard to the Yuming Rubbish And Pretend Education Center. Helen and ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 2 February 2012

I have to back up Silverboy - Yuming Pretend "Education" Centre is a place you should NOT go to; it is a criminal organisation, they hve cheated many teachers before, they do not pay if they have no ...

Has anyone heard of a recruiter called TeachinChina?? -- Barker -- 1 February 2012

I know I'm not really supposed to go through agents and recruiters, but the schools are not advertising much to teach in China.I have been in touch with a guy called Logan (I think that's his ...

Re: Has anyone heard of a recruiter called TeachinChina?? -- Answer-Your-Question -- 2 February 2012

Dear Friend, Indeed I can answer your question. First, they do have a website --- it is www.teachinchina.cn. Their real name is New Times International and they are situated in the capital city of ...

Re: Has anyone heard of a recruiter called TeachinChina?? -- Shining_brow -- 2 February 2012

Can't say I specifically have, but it shouldn't really be the recruiter you worry about, but the school and the contract. Because, after you've signed, you'll never hear from the ...

Re: Has anyone heard of a recruiter called TeachinChina?? -- Barker -- 2 February 2012

It's actually a university that the contract is with. I'm assuming that universities are more legit than training schools etc, and they treat teachers much better, or am I being naive?

Liz Zhang -- Rastus Cleveland -- 1 February 2012

How bad could it be? Yes, I accepted a public school contract with them for 6000 RMB per month, but soon after I arrived at their Beijing location, they put a contract in front of me for 1500 RMB per ...

Re: Liz Zhang -- Jordan -- 1 February 2012

I'm surprised she didn't have you washing her Merc! Here in Inner Mongolia, that's what a Filipina stooped so low as to do for our asshole Chinese training school director in a vain ...

Re: Liz Zhang -- Silverboy -- 1 February 2012

Yes, that is typical GW behaviour from a Filippina. Pathetic!

Re: Liz Zhang -- Silverboy -- 1 February 2012

It is obvious to me that you were working for a criminal. You need to give more detail in regard to your bad experience. The exact name and location of the place would be useful, so we can name and ...

Re: Liz Zhang -- Turnoi -- 1 February 2012

I am wondering what kind of school or "school" you are talking about.

YBM ELS Daegu -- Rastus Cleveland -- 1 February 2012

Even though YBM's ads talk a good game, the day-to-day running of the institute comes down to the whims of the academic director, who has carte blanche. The head office in Seoul couldn't care ...

Re: LA PETITE ACADEMY OF BOUGIVAL -- Caroline -- 31 January 2012

Hello everyone I've just read all these comments and i must say that a lot of things bother me . I have worked for tulay for a long period of time Tulay is an amazing person with a great heart , ...

Re: LA PETITE ACADEMY OF BOUGIVAL -- Turnoi -- 31 January 2012

Regarding your input, two things come to my mind: 1. Whenever this lady called Tulay is doing something wrong, then it is wrong, and I won't accept any excuses for this. If she fails in what she ...

Re: LA PETITE ACADEMY OF BOUGIVAL -- Caroline -- 3 February 2012

I'm working with the authorities and various girls who have worked there so that all this be put to end , but the thing that upsets me most is that she has no experience in teaching and yet there ...

Re: LA PETITE ACADEMY OF BOUGIVAL -- Turnoi -- 3 February 2012

the thing that upsets me most is that she has no experience in teaching and yet there she is teaching english to kids ! Having a degree in anything doesnt give you the right to teach !!! ...

Re: LA PETITE ACADEMY OF BOUGIVAL -- San Migs -- 3 February 2012

But how someone with a degree in Law thinks that she is able to teach English - I don't get it!! Maybe she didn't pass the bar! LOL!

Re: LA PETITE ACADEMY OF BOUGIVAL -- Turnoi -- 3 February 2012

Maybe she didn't pass the bar! LOL! Maybe, she did not pass anything; maybe, it's just a person who overestimates her own capabilities and believes that she is competent in everything - ...

Re: Re Hawaii Palms English School -- junko -- 29 January 2012

principal today was head teacher when I study. he say me his teaching certificat from online school. other schools say me that teachers have certificat only from real schools. other schools hawaii ...

Re: new standard training center liuzhou -- Phil -- 29 January 2012

I know it has been 2 years since people have posted here about Liuzhou New Standard, but I feel like it is time for an update on it. I know some people who started working for this school in ...

Re: new standard training center liuzhou -- Magister -- 30 January 2012

Good luck in the future Phil! A good informative blog on business practices of Chinese schools that should serve as a warning to any new teacher considering coming to China. You should all be aware ...

Re: new standard training center liuzhou -- Turnoi -- 29 January 2012

Having thrown stuff at you reminds me very much of Suzhou Kevin, who is known to do the same. And that's the reason why so many people are happy to work with him as their DoS. New standards at ...

Veracruz -- Mitra Amini -- 27 January 2012

Hello, Please teachers, I want to warn you about a horrible school in Veracruz. Called The American School of Veracruz. I was contacted by them last summer, with a contract that said certain facts ...

Re: Blacklist of crap schools worldwide -- teacher -- 26 January 2012

Hayat Universal Bilingual School: Don't work there. I know 3 past staff members, one in particular who is qualified and experianced who have worked at this non accrediated school and it is not of ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Adam -- 25 January 2012

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL - EXCLUDING THOSE AFFILIATED WITH YUMING EDUCATION. YOU PEOPLE CAN SUCK MY BALLS. Any interesting new updates on the slithering slime that is Yuming education? I know ...

Re: YUMING EDUCATION CENTER - TIANJIN -- Turnoi -- 25 January 2012

If you have any details, you should send them to Blacklist Beijing. I reckon this Yuming Crap "Education" Centre one day might get a visit from them by surprise, and this would be an event they at ...

Re: Goldfinger Training School should be close-It's disgrace to Guiyang city -- Teacher from West -- 25 January 2012

Interesting, at the end of the movie "Gold Finger，” James Bond 007 fought with Mister Goldfinger in a small plane. Then the gun that Goldfinger held, went off. The difference in air pressure ...

Re: Goldfinger Training School should be close-It's disgrace to Guiyang city -- Turnoi -- 25 January 2012

Given that Mister Goldfinger was very evil in the movie, I think we can understand that his language school in China rips off teachers. What else could you expect from a crappy training centre?

International Teaching Advantage -- tpri -- 24 January 2012

Sunday, 20 March 2011 Has anyone used International Teaching Advantage for placement in China? Are they legitimate or a scam? I am just beginning to research jobs teaching english overseas, so ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Raoul F. Duke -- 26 January 2012

Hoooooo-ly Cats!!!!! Turnoi, it is foolish to NOT debate with these people. ;-{) These nice folks not only want to perform totally unnecessary recruiting functions for you, THEY WANT TO CHARGE YOU ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Silverboy -- 27 January 2012

A good post from you and I totally agree. It is a reason why I was quite hostile in my other post in this thread. I don't like recruiters in general, but those who charge FT's a fee are the ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

Sunday, 5 June 2011 This is the requirements section of the website: http://www.teachingadvantage.com "International Teaching Advantage" is a company that insures the prospective teacher that ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Turnoi -- 25 January 2012

Transparency of what and how you are doing things is the way to go. And you do LACK transparency. For example, if you reside in the US, how can you make sure that the schools or "schools" you are in ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Joshua Krass -- 26 January 2012

Dear Turnoi, It is foolish to debate you. Every one of our clients can ask an unlimited amount of questions. We will answer each and every one by email or directly over the phone. Usually within 24 ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Dragonized -- 27 January 2012

Hey I finally found some extra time, and what better way to spend it than make an @$$ out of folks like you. It is foolish to debate you. So why the long rant afterwards? Every one of our clients can ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Buckie -- 27 January 2012

We can make sure of FIVE of the most important things when teaching in China: Pay, Working hours, Location, Housing, and Legal Documentation. I doubt very much you can do what you claim you can as ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Silverboy -- 26 January 2012

I really detest people like yourself. Why can't you get a real job? The "work" you carry out is disgraceful and [edited] You are not helping people, you are a parasite. And I don't care what ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Turnoi -- 26 January 2012

Krass has failed to provide the transparency in his business practices I had asked for. Now, what does that tell us? Has he become more credible by that? I don't think he has. RUBBISH!!!!

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Dragonized -- 27 January 2012

We'll all just ignore their advertisements. Of course if they're already on dave's esl cafe then there shouldn't be a lot of people paying attention to them in the first place except ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Turnoi -- 26 January 2012

I can't see how this cooperation, if any, makes sure that your clients will go to a great school (or "school") in China. Could you provide more details? Also, I think the fact that we cooperate ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Feargal -- 26 January 2012

I think the fact that we cooperate with the CEAIE http://www.ceaie.edu.cn/ and government universities reassures people that they are going to a great school. Great schools in China? Don't make ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Dragonized -- 27 January 2012

There's always something wrong with Chinese schools, from things that annoy a foreign teacher quite a lot to those that downright inflame him (or her)! I think you just spoke a message that ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- claudzs -- 24 January 2012

Monday, 21 March 2011 Hi. I'm a teacher in China. Honestly I can't tell you if its a fake or not, but its easy getting a job without paying for anything. You usually shell out for your ticket ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

5 June 2011 If you enter the country as a tourist and then want to be a teacher or find a job while you are in China you still have to leave the country to get your "Z" visa which makes it legal for ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Kyle -- 24 January 2012

Friday, 20 January 2012 this is hilarious, joshua krass, speaking as if hes a outsider party about this place is registered as the owner, i wonder if everything he is saying is correct...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Dragonized -- 27 January 2012

Haha vested interest supreme!

Re: Some people are amazing -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

Saturday, 21 January 2012 Dear Kyle, I am the owner of International Teaching Advantage. I have never tried to hide that fact when posting. It is easy to know that I am the owner of the business ...

Re: Some people are amazing -- Turnoi -- 24 January 2012

Sunday, 22 January 2012 @J. Krass: Adding to your words of self-praise, let me ask you why you are charging the teachers looking for a job in China. It is normally the schools that would pay an ...

Re: Some people are amazing -- Poster -- 24 January 2012

Tuesday, 24 January 2012 Turnoi, good post re this issue. I haven't read the entire thread but I wonder -- does he really take money up front from foreign teachers? Are they dumb enough to send ...

Re: Some people are amazing -- Turnoi -- 24 January 2012

Tuesday, 24 January 2012 But the advice is simple, at least for China -- never, ever pay anyone for a job in China. There are too many jobs here and not enough candidates. Entirely true. The guy ...

THE ADVANTAGES -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

Dear Kyle, International Teaching Advantage accepts no money from schools in China. We are not a recruiting agency. Recruiters in China accept money from schools. This means that they protect the ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Crap School Spotter -- 24 January 2012

Monday, 6 June 2011 Actually you can in fact obtain a legal Z visa in many parts of China without leaving the mainland and it is quite common. It depends on the employer's location. Some ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Mr Oracle -- 24 January 2012

Tuesday, 7 June 2011 Actually you can in fact obtain a legal Z visa in many parts of China without leaving the mainland and it is quite common Replace "quite common" by "very uncommon", and ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Crap School Spotter -- 24 January 2012

Tuesday, 7 June 2011 Odd. The company that I work for gets most of their Z visas done in Beijing for the foreign staff and none of them need to leave. 5 of our vendors get their Z visas done in ...

International Teaching Advantage -- Judy -- 24 January 2012

Monday, 10 October 2011 [edited] I sent in all my personal documents that International Advantage had requested on 9/28/10 out of post-college desperation for a job. But upon realizing that "Keith ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Shining_brow -- 1 February 2012

Judy - I don't really understand the problem... ITA has told you that, for $325, they ONLY contact the BEST schools in China, where your heritage would have NO relevance at all... So, presuming ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Magister -- 27 January 2012

That was pretty to the point! It is, as others have pointed out completely true that Chinese employers and more importantly parents/students i.e. customers want white faces. A lot of recruiters and ...

International Teaching Advantage -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

International Teaching Advantage is an American company founded to protect teacher's rights. All of the employees in the United States are American. The letter to Judy was a polite way of ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Turnoi -- 24 January 2012

Tuesday, 11 October 2011 So, conclusion: psssshhhhh [edited] this place Judy, there are two things in this email: 1. To me, it would be an indication [edited] if someone writing non-native English ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Oldtimer -- 24 January 2012

Tuesday, 7 June 2011 Odd. The company that I work for gets most of their Z visas done in Beijing for the foreign staff and none of them need to leave. If you're a foreign expert in the field of ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Crap School Spotter -- 24 January 2012

Wednesday, 8 June 2011 Actually if you speak directly with the entry and exit bureau in Beijing they will tell you that in fact you can legally obtain a valid Z visa in China without leaving and if ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Magister -- 27 January 2012

In China there is breaking the rules, and then there is guanxi. Exactly! You can't assume that there is one rule for visas in China and that everyone, everywhere is following it. Nothing in this ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Foxy -- 24 January 2012

Wednesday, 8 June 2011 Well, assuming you're correct, why is it that the vast majority of Chinese employers of teachers will send their FT's who arrive with L's to HK to get Z's? The ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Turino -- 24 January 2012

Wednesday, 8 June 2011 Thanks for your post. I just thought I'd update the visa regs in Jinan for everyone's benefit. Those without bachelor's degrees can no longer get a foreign expert ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Silverboy -- 24 January 2012

Thursday, 9 June 2011 That information is absolutely correct. FT's especially newbies, please take note! An L can't be changed to a Z and subsequently an RP in nearly every part of China. ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Crap School Spotter -- 24 January 2012

Thursday, 9 June 2011 I know 2 females that just did it in Guanxi and they are now on valid Z's with PR and they have since traveled in and out of the PRC on those without any problems so there ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

Saturday, 11 June 2011 Dear Everyone, My initial comment was only to give good advice for people who want to teach in China. This advice is only for teachers! (not anyone else) If you are interested ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Silverboy -- 24 January 2012

Monday, 13 June 2011 That is not exactly right. I know a teacher who came to a uni in Hubei on a Z-visa, he was used for three weeks, then the school decided not to obtain RP for him. There was ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Crap School Spotter -- 24 January 2012

Monday, 13 June 2011 and when that happens....you simply Skype Beijing Blacklist and stuff happens to level the playing field in one form or another.

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Dragonized -- 27 January 2012

CSS what's up! Welcome back. Have you seen the beijing blacklist ppl in action yet?

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- A R -- 24 January 2012

Monday, 13 June 2011 Some schools will coax teachers into entering China with a visa other than a "Z" and it can cause a great deal of problems for that teacher. But some teachers enter China with a ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Joshua Krass -- 24 January 2012

6 June 2011 It is true that in places like Beijing you can get many official documents completed. Traveling to Hong Kong is always an option but you have to leave the Mainland. Many people would ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Crap School Spotter -- 24 January 2012

7 June 2011 Its always best to enter on a Z visa if you need one of course. Again, I see these visas being issued frequently on a routine and regular basis and I don't see people leaving for HK ...

Re: International Teaching Advantage -- Foxy -- 24 January 2012

7 June 2011 Its always best to enter on a Z visa if you need one of course. Not at all, not if you've a Chinese spouse, and you wanna teach. C'se it's illegal, but in my experience, you ...

Re: Hawaii Palms English School USA -- keiko -- 24 January 2012

Can they use my picture on their website and facebook without my permission? They never asked, but I see it there. I don't think staff and teachers care what students want or don't want.

Re: Child-U in Yeosu, South Korea - ESL school review -- Daisy -- 22 January 2012

Coming to live in a foreign country can be tough. There are a million questions that run through a person's mind. Questions about the culture, location, people, and of course, all that fancy ...

Re: Re GOLDFINGER TRAINING SCHOOL IN GUIYANG, GUIZHOU PROVINCE -- ALINQO -- 20 January 2012

Hi everyone, my name is Tony from Africa, i came to china and it happen i got my self in this man and her wife hand. THIS WOMAN AND HER HUSBAND ARE POOR,SELF CENTERED,BLIND AND DIRTY.THEY'VE ...

Re: Ivor Galea English First Needs New Teachers ASAP For EF Moscow -- M.McArdle -- 20 January 2012

I could rattle off half a dozen names of English schools from all over the globe I have worked for, however, the fact remains I chose EF English First in Moscow above all. The reason is simple, ...

Websters / Daisy/ Guilin, Guangxi -- Theodore Daniel Kereluk -- 19 January 2012

Hi, I want a job in Guilin only. I'm not interested in any other city. I have an offer from Websters. The offer is 5000-6000,Also apartment, meals, flight cost are either included or negotionable ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- true -- 19 January 2012

There are over 80 franchised schools in the EF China network all with a fairly lose affiliation with the Head Office in Shanghai. Therefore the quality does vary! I myself have worked happily at two ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 19 January 2012

Everyone with a bit of brain would look at business model of this language mill franchise chain to see what all these crappy places have in common and where they do not differ. Then, with a bit more ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- true -- 20 January 2012

Firstly if the business model was that terrible then they wouldn't be in business. Not only are they in business the are expanding at a rapid rate. Personally i couldn't give two hoots if the ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Will -- 20 January 2012

Someone who has been teaching for years on end as a volunteer on another continent far from Asia is constantly posting negatively regarding private employers in China. Weird, isn't it? ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Silverboy -- 20 January 2012

As you are a GW your words should just be ignored. There is voluminous evidence that proves EF is rubbish, and it is annoying to see posters still coming on here asking if EF is "good" or not. I for ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- The Duke -- 20 January 2012

Well, "Will" must be someone paid by EF, isn't it?

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- true -- 20 January 2012

Well I guess someone who has or is working for EF has more incite into working conditions than someone who hasn't worked there.

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Gordon in Dongbei -- 20 January 2012

Well I guess someone who has or is working for EF has more incite into working conditions than someone who hasn't worked there. That's a fact! EF isn't a global educator that attracts ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Dragonized -- 21 January 2012

Well, I can say the reason so many folks hate EF can come from a myriad of so many different reasons, for one having to deal with some idiot like you at work every day. I just love laughing at people ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 21 January 2012

Your unashamed display of stupidity is providing decent new year's entertainment for me! Hahaha! Yes, and that's the kind of "high" quality "teachers" that EF provides at its locations ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Not an EF Lover -- 21 January 2012

As Turnoi said, just look at this post by an EF teacher in Shenyang...just look at the quality, and I mean lack of quality, of the English language: "That's a fact! EF isn't a global educator ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 22 January 2012

Spelling mistakes: benefit, among others as benefit! Grammar: what does "in their myriad" mean? This isn't Chinglish...this is illiterate. That poster fits the roster of so-called "teacher" that ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 22 January 2012

Here is something about pretend professionalism: That's a fact! EF isn't a global educator that attracts professional EFL teachers in there myriads for no reason. We should always trust the ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 21 January 2012

Well I guess someone who has or is working for EF has more incite into working conditions than someone who hasn't worked there. The truth then is that EF schools employ those "highly" qualified ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- true -- 27 January 2012

I would like to make a full, frank and sincere apology for my error above. Clearly this demonstrates that I am educationally sub-normal and a poor quality teacher as pointed out by Turnoi. ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Silverboy -- 28 January 2012

If you go around defending rubbish schools in China like EF then yes indeed [edited] Really had enough of useless people like yourself who try to make excuses for [edited] like EF. EF Shenyang is ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - like a crocodile becoming a vegetarian over night...LOL -- Turnoi -- 29 January 2012

EF Shenyang is [edited], ALL EF schools are rubbish and totally useless. End of story! Sometimes, even crocodiles change their habits over night and become vegetarians the other day. I have also ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 27 January 2012

Clearly this demonstrates that I am educationally sub-normal and a poor quality teacher as pointed out by Turnoi. Well, remember: My assessment is based on your input, and if you sent a text with so ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- San Migs -- 28 January 2012

they know nothing about education nor are they sufficiently trained in English, and so they employ illiterate English "native" speakers! Indeed, much like that pretend crappy dells drinking place on ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 28 January 2012

Spelling mistake! Idiot! Spelling mistake! Idiot! Spelling mistake! Idiot! Spelling mistake! Idiot! Spelling mistake! Idiot! Yes, that's true if a "TEACHER" of English makes such mistakes; in ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Reply to "True" -- 27 January 2012

I stand with Turnoi here on this one. EF anywhere in China is at the very bottom of the barrel -- not even at the bottom of the barrel -- at the bottom of the sewer. They have a particularly ...

Re: Re EF English First Shenyang - good/bad? -- Turnoi -- 29 January 2012

Just consider, if you will, the hyperaggresive and rude post to which I am replying. Yes, this fellow might have lost any argument and now does not know how to reply! How can he, he must know ...

Re: Ivy English School, Harbin Heilongjiang -- Every foreign teacher who has ever worked there -- 16 January 2012

Ivy English school in Jiamusi, China is a pack of lies. Their website includes pictures of teachers who came and left within three months because they couldn't stand it anymore. They make you ...

Ivy English School / Jiamusi, China -- Every foreign teacher who has ever worked there -- 13 January 2012

This school is a total crapper!!!! They will lie to you and cheat you in almost every aspect. They check your apartment monthly, have a Chinese TA who reports to the director about your performance, ...

Re: Ivy English School / Jiamusi, China -- San Migs -- 13 January 2012

They will lie to you and cheat you in almost every aspect In the education sector in the PRC, I am shocked, shocked I say I am!

Re: Ivy English School / Jiamusi, China -- Turnoi -- 19 January 2012

They will lie to you and cheat you in almost every aspect What else could you expect from them in such a place? DON'T WORK FOR THEM, as simple as that!

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- San Migs -- 11 January 2012

Unhappy and unsatisfied with their own lives. If you don't like working and teaching in China go back home and stop dissing the people that provide employment for the people who actually want to ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Silverboy -- 11 January 2012

What a lame post from you! You regurgitate drivel from 2009, a time when this board was even more infested with GW's then it is now. I suspect you may be friendly with the goons who used to post ...

EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Young Englishman in China -- 11 January 2012

EF Dalian is a nasty school. They recently fired me because my wife is 7 months pregnant, and the school worried I would need paternity leave. They fired me but want me to stay for an extra month, ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Dragonized -- 12 January 2012

Our thoughts and prayers are with you. I had a similiar experience with the fake electricity bill thing when I was working at Yangzhou Global IELTS. Please take care and understand that there are ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- San Migs -- 11 January 2012

I am English and my wife is Mongolian (outer Mongolian, not China) so we have no family around here. We had no money and no home. Thankfully a friend found us somewhere to stay for a while. Young ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Turnoi -- 12 January 2012

if your friend didn't step in, what then? Dear San Migs, life in China is for a foreign teacher is a venture, and sometimes it may become even an "adventure" in extreme situations like that ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- asd -- 11 January 2012

What a nightmare! Hope things improve for you and your wife. EF management in Dalian should be in the Labour courts for breech of basic employment rights, blatant discrimination and theft, extortion ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Daz -- 13 January 2012

Yet another horror story at an EF school in China. The bottom line is that we ESL teachers need to protect ourselves. Foreign teachers are the lifeblood of these schools. By exposing their criminal ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Dragonized -- 14 January 2012

When their schools start going out of business, maybe these scumbag owners will learn to treat us with respect. I think when these scumbags cross the wrong people one day and get the shyte kicked ...

Re: EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Turnoi -- 15 January 2012

I think when these scumbags cross the wrong people one day and get the shyte kicked out of them, then maybe they will learn to treat people with respect. I for one wouldn't mind seeing that ...

Why not to work for EF anywhere in China//EF Dalian/ English First Dalian -- Turnoi -- 11 January 2012

EF management in Dalian should be in the Labour courts for breech of basic employment rights, blatant discrimination and theft, extortion etc! Yet another reason not to work for EF anywhere in China. ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2012

business in China is different to the west and some franchisee schools have let companies down by mistreating their employees. That is drivel, it is especially businesses like Aston that are the ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Silverboy -- 10 January 2012

Yes Turnoi, you are right again. The blackjade poster is speaking piffle/drivel, whatever you like to call it. People like him can be dangerous, not only is he a GW, I suspect he may also be a ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- lulz -- 12 January 2012

he may be a "ratter", but you are certainly a "nutter'!

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Dragonized -- 12 January 2012

And your posts are "L-A-M-E-R"!

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- San Migs -- 11 January 2012

I suspect he may also be a "ratter", that means he would try　ｔｏ　cause troｕble for fellow FT's by reporting them to certain authorities. A guy I know quite well was "outed" a a "ratter" ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- gratified -- 10 January 2012

Just mention Aston and you get a whole thread of Turnoi/Silverboy/Raoul/Whatever talking to himself and agreeing with himself...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Turnoi -- 12 January 2012

Apart from the fact that Raoul, Turnoi, and Silverboy are in fact different persons and not one and the same person posting under several aliases, you do not seem to competent enough to tell them ...

Grovelling Weasel Talk -Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2012

The lobbyist of crap pretend "schools" in China...grovelling weasel talk....hahaha! Nothing else needs to be added!

Re: Grovelling Weasel Talk -Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- blackjade -- 10 January 2012

...that's your best come back? I think I rest my case. I'm sure the person that posted the question was expecting an honest opinion and all she got was the drivel you people posted. I think ...

Re: Grovelling Weasel Talk -Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2012

that's your best come back? I had never been away, and the one posting drivel is you, I would say. I think I rest my case. Yes, do so. No need to read your stuff.

Wise English (Beijing/China) -- Jeffrey Teacher -- 10 January 2012

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone has had interaction with Wise English, a newer company in China that offers tutoring to Chinese students online. Let me know if you've heard anything, or had ...

Re: Wise English (Beijing/China) -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2012

I do not know that Unwise English something but if it is an online teaching biz, it will rely on the same shitty business model like Web English in China. We have read many complaints on the latter ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Silverboy -- 9 January 2012

I disagree. He has every right to pounce, we are talking about a very poor quality organization here. I have not worked at Aston, but I know Aston Wuhan is a rubbish school for sure, and I know ...

Jinan OMJ education consultation Co, Ltd -- Adrian Smith -- 9 January 2012

Jinan OMJ education consultation Co, Ltd is a new start up by a recruiter with an established track record in placing teachers in public Middle Schools in China. Having previously worked for OMJ, I ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Turnoi -- 9 January 2012

Let it go Raoul, carrying that hate around with you for so long is only hurting yourself. "Expat No. 1" is not only the king and the best of all expats in China, he is also the whistleblower for ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- asd -- 9 January 2012

When someone you worked for breaks the "trust" you instil in them as your employer by ripping you off, I can fully understand the need to tell others to avoid an employer. You can dress up a ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2012

Some people can't handle the "brutal honesty" dished out here and instead prefer the 'sugar coated, rose tinted glasses' version of China instead instead. For sure, we will always dish ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Dragonized -- 9 January 2012

It's so easy to tell others to let it go when you don't know what happened, do you? Some things are bigger than grudges. Aston reaps what it sows, deservedly so.

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- expat number one -- 10 January 2012

Raoul / Silverboy / Turnoi or whatever you're calling yourself now, you ever think the bad experiences you had in all these schools you hate so much has anything to do with yourself? Your bad ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Silverboy -- 10 January 2012

FYI, Silverboy, Turnoi, Raoul, Drag, we are all different people. It seems to me that YOUR knowledge is very poor indeed! Lack of socil skills? Hardly, we are all well balanced individuals with a ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- San Migs -- 11 January 2012

Money is all your kind really care about. Well said. These GW's should work at a public job, and not sell their souls for a couple of extra thousand rmb a month in some glasshouse useless ...

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- San Migs -- 10 January 2012

Silverboy / Turnoi These two posters are not the same...you are dead wrong here!!

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Turnoi -- 10 January 2012

Your bad attitude and complete lack of social skills are quite obvious to anyone reading your posts. Bad attitude towards crap pretend "schools" in China? Oh yes, then it's fine and appropriate. ...

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Craigster -- 6 January 2012

I've considered joining this company - any information about their other branches? Most of the negative stuff seems to be restricted to Shanghai and Wuhan. Does anyone have any information about ...

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Dixie normous -- 19 January 2012

I am at one of their 3 branches in Guangzhou. I have to say the bad reports about them are pretty damn accurate, the staff are liars, they will cheat you out of your money, and i know most teachers ...

Re: NDI (New Dynamic Institute) -- Raoul F. Duke -- 9 January 2012

Craigster, I do know other branches of NDI, but not the ones you cite. I can tell you that the other branches I've encountered were awful; as bad as Shanghai etc. if not even worse. I've ...

Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Kiara -- 6 January 2012

Hi guys, Does anyone have anything to say (good, bad or indifferent) about either ASTON (specifically Tangshan) or Xiamen WECL Educational Group? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Aston Tangshan and Xiamen WECL Educational Group -- Raoul F. Duke -- 9 January 2012

Hi! I don't know WECL, but I definitely know Aston. They are bad news. They were bad enough when their weasel top management ran their schools; today most are locally-owned franchises and tend to ...

Recent Testimonial -- The Pantalooned Poltroon -- 5 January 2012

I taught here last year. Not bad. It's all white, except for American and British blacks. Last year, there was an American named Mario, who was definitely mixed-race. No Africans, for sure, which ...

Re: Recent Testimonial -- Moses -- 5 January 2012

No Africans, for sure, which their rival certainly does employ to a large degree. Yuncheng IELTS School is not a racist employer . It is good for Africans and Russians . Mr Rivers is a good boss . I ...

Re: Recent Testimonial -- The Pantalooned Poltroon -- 7 January 2012

"Good for Africans and Russians" means "bad for students" because you're selling them a highly non-standard form of English, spoken by people whom native speakers can't understand well. It ...

Re: Recent Testimonial -- Mike -- 5 January 2012

You must have taught at Yuncheng EV. Unlike you, I taught at Yuncheng IELTS school, the 'opposition', and I had a good time working for them. Now there's a third agent servicing the ...

Re: Recent Testimonial -- The Pantalooned Poltroon -- 5 January 2012

Yeah, I just read an ad from that third company. Their package seems equivalent to the others, except I assume 5000 RMB is just to lowball people before negotiating. Everyone at EV makes 5500 at ...

Re: Recent Testimonial -- foxy -- 5 January 2012

the ones doing less than 18 hours. I do 18 teaching hours /week, @ 40 minutes/ teaching hour. That equals 12 clock hours. We should warn newbies that they can be duped by wily Chinese employers. If ...

Re: On teaching "hours" -- cunning linguist -- 6 January 2012

What you are saying is correct for all newbies in that the definition of "hours" is variable. In the university where I work I queried this some time ago because I am used to calling it "contact ...

Re: Re LTC in Beihai Guangxi - ESL school review -- Silverboy -- 4 January 2012

I have also had experience with that woman Beth, but did not work there. She is a stingy and very dishonest woman, LTC is just another crappy TC, anyone with common sense will keep right away from ...

DD Dragon Wenzhou -- Current Teacher -- 4 January 2012

Who ever said Lingxi and Longgang DD Dragon cannot get you a Z visa is a liar. Cangnan DD Dragon Lingxi and Longgang are licensed to employ foreign teachers and provide them with foreign expert ...

Re: DD Dragon Wenzhou -- Dragonized -- 5 January 2012

You haven't provided any contact information for "the teachers" working at your "school" nor have you explained why the person needed to lie and ramble about some remote training center in a 2nd ...

Re: DD Dragon Wenzhou -- Turnoi -- 5 January 2012

The fact that you decided to take the intiative and accuse others of committing wrong while failing to provide evidence shows you are a dodgy person and nobody should trust you! I completely agree, ...

Re: Re LTC in Beihai Guangxi - ESL school review -- Misc -- 4 January 2012

Do not work for Beth Gong she is ACTUALLY EVIL!

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- anon -- 4 January 2012

This school is going to close soon. I've been moved from a full-time to a part-time position. Not entertaining enough apparently. And Asian flu is not a good enough reason to have a sick day. ...

Shane English Schools, Taipei -- Breclen -- 3 January 2012

I am new to the TESL world and am just now looking for my first position abroad. I'm currently in talks with Shane English Schools in Taipei. I've seen lots of negative comments regarding the ...

Re English First Moscow -- Scott B -- 30 December 2011

Teaching is truly one of the most difficult jobs one can attempt. Firstly, organizational and time management skills are a must. Work does not stop once class is over; it is the teacher’s ...

Re: Re English First Moscow -- Silverboy -- 3 January 2012

How much did you get paid to write that little gem of a post? A typical GW post, nobody should listen to your BS, EF = rubbish!

Re: Re English First Moscow -- Turnoi -- 3 January 2012

A typical GW post, nobody should listen to your BS, EF = rubbish! I completely agree - first, EF is rubbish, wherever exists! Second, especially Moscow is not a good place to go to and live, and ...

Re: Ivor Galea English First Needs New Teachers ASAP For EF Moscow -- James Corwell -- 30 December 2011

I teach for EF English First Moscow and I enjoy it a lot. In any big city school system like in Russia, you have issues that you don't have much control on, e.g. extreme weather conditions, too ...

Strage - so many posts in favour of EF Moscow suddenly popping up here -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2011

I assume these are lackeys told to post on here in favour of EF Moscow - I smell a rat!

Beware of Jacky Chen, Nemo etc from Zhengzhou-Henan -- Dom -- 29 December 2011

Fellow Teachers and prospective teachers, I want to draw your attention to some unscrupulous fellows in Zhengzhou.One of them carries a fake name on his yahoo chat window-Jacky Chen,yahoo id ...

Ivor Galea English First Needs New Teachers ASAP For EF Moscow -- Dan Herpert -- 29 December 2011

I worked for EF English First, which is Moscow, based, for over 3 years. They have their faults, but I know quite a lot of people who have worked for them for many years (and are not loser types), ...

Re: Ivor Galea English First Needs New Teachers ASAP For EF Moscow -- Craig Stewart -- 30 December 2011

I have also always heard good things about EF English First. I have never heard anyone say anything bad about English First. I knew one of their managers Ivor Galea and he was one of the finest human ...

Re: Ivor Galea English First Needs New Teachers ASAP For EF Moscow -- Turnoi -- 29 December 2011

Did this Ivor guy ask to come here and to post in favour of that shitty business? EF is Moscow is crap, don't work there!

BEWARE of BOLES in Beijing (CENTURY BOLE OVERSEAS STUDY SERVICE CONSULTING COMPANY) -- Rick -- 28 December 2011

CENTURY BOLE OVERSEAS STUDY SERVICE CONSULTING COMPANY breaks contracts with foreign teachers!!! This is an update from my previous post, which will go onto other teacher sites as well. They left me ...

Re: NETWORK ESL - scammers -- Barker -- 28 December 2011

I'm about to start applying to come out and teach in China, but have a few questions. Do you know of any good agencies or schools to be looking into. I've read some posts and it seems like ...

Re: NETWORK ESL - scammers -- Kanadian -- 29 December 2011

unfortunately many employment agents in China are pathological lairs ! It is always best to try and contract the schools FAO ( Foreign Affairs Officer ) and talk directly to the school. I do have 1 ...

Re: NETWORK ESL - scammers -- P L -- 28 December 2011

I'm looking to teach in either Shanghai, Beijing or Tianjin or Guangzhou. Your preferred Chinese cities speaks volumes re your astuteness and prior research to posting on here. Maybe you should ...

Some advice please -- Barker -- 28 December 2011

Hey I wonder if you can help me. I'm about to start applying to come out and teach in China, but have a few questions. Do you know of any good agencies or schools to be looking into. I've ...

Re: Some advice please -- juanisaac -- 30 December 2011

I would suggest you look at www.echinacities.com. The website is in English and you can directly contact employers with your information. The jobs section covers the whole of China to include private ...

Re: Some advice please -- Silverboy -- 28 December 2011

Well, the cities you are interested in are overpriced, overcrowded, polluted, and if you like Chinese women you will never find a GF there ( if teaching is your only income source ) Don't mean to ...

Re: Some advice please -- Barker -- 10 January 2012

Hi me again, I just had an interview(ish) with a lady and she's insisting I have to take a Physical exam before I come out to China. Is this the norm? Some of the procedures are really expensive ...

Re: Some advice please -- cunning linguist -- 11 January 2012

In China, one thing is certain - practices vary. When I first came to China I had a full medical in the UK. Some of it was done by my own GP (doctor), but other tests I had to pay for at a private ...

Re: Some advice please -- San Migs -- 28 December 2011

If you can contact a university directly, do so, it is becoming more difficult. Another thing, most teaching jobs go to people already living in China, or those who previously have. Solid advice ...

Contacting schools directly -- Turnoi -- 29 December 2011

Try this site (they are agents, not recruiters) but they have the contact details for each schools in their database online! http://www.chinatefl.com/ Good luck!

Re: Contacting schools directly -- Barker -- 29 December 2011

Thanks for the advice. I have had a couple of schools/recruiters get in touch, and they've really been interested, and then somehow it seems that they didn't read my CV and realise that I was ...

Re: Contacting schools directly -- Silverboy -- 29 December 2011

Do not believe that "friendliness" and "politeness" rubbish about Chinese people. It is a stereotype. Most of them are only friendly when they want something. Chinese can be as rude and abrupt as ...

Re: Contacting schools directly -- San Migs -- 29 December 2011

Better to work in a second tier city that is not so popular with foreigners. If you only look in Shanghai or Beijing you probably won't get a job. BTW, why do you want to work in SH or BJ? There ...

Re: Contacting schools directly -- Turnoi -- 29 December 2011

I have a mate who is English/British and black. I was gonna try and persuade him to come out and teach also, but I've heard it might be harder for him to get a job. What's the score with ...

Re: Contacting schools directly -- Barker -- 29 December 2011

Thanks again. I know you can't give out or recommend individual schools/universities/training centres etc, but you mentioned applying to public schools. I have looked into chinaesl.com.cn and it ...

Re: Contacting schools directly -- Turnoi -- 30 December 2011

Try them: http://www.chinatefl.com/ Public schools in China = not privare-run but state-run schools, they may be either middle schools, universities or any kind of vocational colleges. You may also ...

Re: Contacting schools directly -- Silverboy -- 29 December 2011

I have noticed it is more often that blacks work at training centres. The TC's will employ anyone, it has nothing to do with being nice to blacks, ESL in China is very racist like you said, but ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 24 December 2011

Most on here think there some kind of p.h.d they are proper h dick Another GW bully and lackey to the tc. These tc's need to be obliterated and all GW lackeys kicked out! My new year wish! ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- saulrovers@hotmail.com -- 28 December 2011

What is a GW,i am a decent person who teaches my students English culture and very basic oral skills,the kids i teach are mainly 6/12 years old.I try to have fun in class with them because their ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Turnoi -- 29 December 2011

What is a GW,i am a decent person A grovelling weasel is NOT a decent person, and did anyone call you a grovelling weasel? I have a good medicine for them - my crocs will eat them up!...LOL

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 28 December 2011

I remember you because you posted in defence of the filipinas. As you state you have a chinese wife, just curious why you defend filipinas so much? Anyway, jersey is a nice place, happy new year to ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 29 December 2011

Just curious too - why do you have to associate filipinas with topics being discussed on here? Hope my curiosity won't kill me....goshhhhhhhhh

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 29 December 2011

You need a reality check IMO, it seems you can't handle ctiticism of your own race. Philippines women are notorious scammers. Just go to any internet dating site, pretend to be a Western guy, and ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

Dear Silverboy, I was simply asking the San Migs poster a question. You can criticize all filipinas in this whole wide world, that's not a problem with me. Where did I ever show that I can't ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 30 December 2011

Where did I ever show that I can't handle criticisms on filipinas? When you threw your toys out of the pram a while back, because I dared to mention that filipinas are generally gold diggers and ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

I am not interested with your sob story, dearie, you can keep it with you for eternity. You just said it, change comes from within. May I add, letting go will set you free. All the best for 2012!

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 31 December 2011

May I add, letting go will set you free. Very easy for your sisters to do that, after they have milked some poor guy for a ton of his money?

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 31 December 2011

Yep, that's right! Good one San Mig! Philippine women are just lazy, and there is no excuse for it.

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Turnoi -- 31 December 2011

The truth will set you and all of us free! A happy and successful New Year, miffed!!

the golddigger -- miffed -- 2 January 2012

A happy, prosperous 2012 too sir. Am afraid my greetings is a bit late. Was in the village with my friends in low places eh. We dug and dug...gold, oooppsss wrong, sweet potatoes! So I am not only a ...

Re: the golddigger -- Turnoi -- 3 January 2012

So I am not only a digger of gold (am making fun of silverboy's term of me- a golddigger), am also a digger of crops. I am digging for more crocodiles to give all grovelling weasels a big ...

Re: the golddigger -- San Migs -- 2 January 2012

So I am not only a digger of gold Are you 100 percent sure? You have a lot to do to convince sboy, drags and me otherwise!!!

Re: the golddigger -- Turnoi -- 2 January 2012

How did you celebrate new year in Kenya? After church service, we have a had a great party, it was really great! Have a nice day!

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 29 December 2011

it seems you can't handle ctiticism of your own race That is painfully apparent...maybe she has some hatred of western men!

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

No, dearie, I don't have any aversion to western men. How I chortled with delight reading your post.

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 30 December 2011

Yes, all very amusing. So perhaps now you will finally answer my question. Would you accept a poorer western boyfriend, or will you continue to be evasive and say filipinas are...I am an honest ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

Why not? If I fall in LOVE with him.

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 31 December 2011

We shall see.

Re: Aston English, Xian -- foxy -- 29 December 2011

Once again, it is not the responsibility of foreigners to rescue the "poor Filippina" from poverty. You created the mess your society is in, your people must fix it. I couldn't have put it ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

No, I don't get the message. Care to elucidate? Thank you so much in advance. Ohh la la....

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 30 December 2011

No, you do not get the message, because you ARE a golddigger, otherwise you would have answered the question. Philippine women are lowlife in general. I call upon white FT's in China to report ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Dragonized -- 31 December 2011

Unfortunately Sboy, we have a case here with people who do not want to admit they are wrong. This inability to accept criticism is found all over the world, but it can get to be especially ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Turnoi -- 1 January 2012

we have a case here with people who do not want to admit they are wrong. Sorry, Drags, I have to disagree. This controversy is not really about the inability to accept criticism but rather about ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Dragonized -- 1 January 2012

I'm not here to generalize the women of the Phillipines as a whole, but specifically them as a group working in china. If I were to visit the Phillipines I'm sure I would meet many decent ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- GW Hater -- 1 January 2012

I stated in East Asia (which includes the Phillipines, China, Japan, and the Koreas) people have a hard time admitting they are wrong, especially when they receive criticism. My experiences in China ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Dragonized -- 2 January 2012

GW Hater you are absolutely right. Apparently chinese bosses think they own you just because you have signed a contract with them. This entitlement mentality is completely unfounded and goes against ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 1 January 2012

Wow GW Hater, I totally agree with what you said. In general, Asian people are self-serving, and won't take responsibilty for their actions. I have seen this many times: A Chinese is caught out, ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 1 January 2012

A Chinese is caught out, they have done the wrong thing, you show them the evidence, they still deny. Indeed! I was reading a book about doing business in china, it said that in hospitals they will ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 1 January 2012

not a hope in hell of a renewal - you'll never be forgiven, and you'll be branded a troublemaker, even though you were careful to point out the breach in a polite way. Indeed true...I ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 31 December 2011

but it can get to be especially frustrating with countries in east asia. Through these posts we see a good case of individuals with NO EMPATHY whatsoever and who do not care about how others feel. ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 31 December 2011

No, you do not get the message, because you ARE a golddigger, otherwise you would have answered the question. Philippine women are lowlife in general. golddigger- digger of gold? oh yes, we dug gold ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 31 December 2011

Well, sadly, Minti the cat is dead now. May her soul rest in peace. She was my liitle soulmate, reliable, loyal, cute, funny, very intelligent. She understood what uncoditional love and loyalty is ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 1 January 2012

Well, if they are here in China they will be out shopping, wasting some foreigners hard earned cah. To be fair mate, I don't just think it is a filipina thing, although they are particularly good ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Lincoln -- 1 January 2012

To be fair mate, I don't just think it is a filipina thing, although they are particularly good at it. Yep, you're right on track mate, but they, who think they are particularly good at it, ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 1 January 2012

I think it is not culture, it is greed. 2000 rmb for a jade necklace, WTF! It it had been 500 or so, yeah, maybe, but I would be expecting sex if I bought a 500 rmb gift for a Chinese girl. If they ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Turnoi -- 1 January 2012

Well, sadly, Minti the cat is dead now. May her soul rest in peace. She was my liitle soulmate, reliable, loyal, cute, funny, very intelligent. She understood what uncoditional love and loyalty is ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 1 January 2012

Hi Turnoi. I probably won't get another cat, as I am in China most of the time now. I am not commuting back and forth like before. I do not trust Chinese people in any way in regard to welfare of ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 31 December 2011

you are one pugnacious man I don't think so, stop hurling mud at others...and answer the question without using diversionary gambits!

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 30 December 2011

You play the poverty card, but the average gdp of Manila is much higher than the average GDP of my home city, Manchester. By your rationale, I should be sending home every cent, and looking for a ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

Is this addressed to me personally, again? San Migs dearie, I thought I already made it clear in my previous message to you on another thread about these things - using poverty as an excuse for ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- San Migs -- 29 December 2011

Last time when me and silverboy were discussing filipinas, he rushed into your fellow sisters defence...that's all! It seems you are overly sensitive...if we can't discuss issues such as ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- miffed -- 30 December 2011

It seems you are overly sensitive...if we can't discuss issues such as filipinas working illegally in China, then what can we discuss? Am I?...no,no,no go ahead on discussing filipinas working ...

Re: Aston English, Xian - the best place to learn Chinglish! -- Turnoi -- 26 December 2011

I tend to believe that Aston seems to employ ill-qualified FTs to keep wags for them low. I can't imagine how someone like the writer of this post could be a decent teacher of English, based on ...

Re: Aston English, Xian - the best place to learn Chinglish! -- San Migs -- 26 December 2011

The Shanghai psb have recently stated a bachelors degree, two years experience of teaching english and a TEFOL/TESL are the requirements. Do you think that is acceptable for a ft in China? I agree ...

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Raoul F. Duke -- 23 December 2011

Yes, this guy writes like he learned his English at an Aston school. ;-{D From any standpoint, Aston sucks. Always has.

Re: Aston English, Xian -- Silverboy -- 23 December 2011

He is just another GW, the goons never give up! Aston is the bottom of the barrel, nothing but trash, ALL FT'S KEEP AWAY FROM THAT RUBBISH "SCHOOL"!

Ameson Institute for Foreign Languages?. -- jobseeker -- 23 December 2011

What's the score with this Chinese school? Please enlighten me if you can. The contract is too open-ended for my liking. I'm in a quandary, go there for a high salary, or elsewhere for ...

Re: SCIE Shenzhen College of International Education -- bh -- 23 December 2011

Hey, I know this school and that 'asehole' well! You were lucky to get away as soon as you could without him really stuffing up your life in Asia! He did it to me even after I helped him get ...

Re: SCIE Shenzhen College of International Education -- Silverboy -- 23 December 2011

I liked your post. It is amazing how naive and stupid Chinese parents can be. They will pay large sums of money because they think their equally dumb kids will end up at Oxford or Harvard like you ...

Re: SCIE Shenzhen College of International Education -- San Migs -- 8 January 2012

Silv, interesting points here mate. At Benny/Blaze wu's school in Guangdong, he was also using the same gambit...photos of kids on some trip abroad, to lure the parents into believing his ...

Re: SCIE Shenzhen College of International Education -- BitterandTwisted -- 8 January 2012

This particular school has achieved ( by far ) the best A level results in China over the last few years and each year sends a large number students to top UK universities including Oxford, ...

Re: SCIE Shenzhen College of International Education -- Silverboy -- 9 January 2012

Sounds like a lot of codswallop to me! Can you prove that? Anyway, you could easily provide forged documents to a website like this. It is well known that students in China will pay to get "good ...

Re: SCIE Shenzhen College of International Education -- cunning linguist -- 9 January 2012

"This particular school has achieved ( by far ) the best A level results in China over the last few years ..." That's a very strong statement. And these results, so comparisons can be made, are ...

Yemen -- the grammarator -- 23 December 2011

There are things in Yemen that are really appealing: the weather, the architecture, the beaches, the mountains, and the honey. But none of those things makes teaching in a rubbish institute ...

Yemen -- San Migs -- 26 December 2011

So in conclusion, if I had the choice between teaching ESL in Yemen and robbing graves in a cemetery, I would get myself a shovel and a pick. It's a job... In short, don't even bother, unless ...

Yemen -- Turnoi -- 26 December 2011

So in conclusion, if I had the choice between teaching ESL in Yemen and robbing graves in a cemetery, I would get myself a shovel and a pick. It's a job... So, will you become a "robber" then?

Yemen -- Turnoi -- 19 December 2011

BTW, who would be stupid enough to go to Yemen in this time of political unrest in that country? There are official travel warnings for Yemen by several European Foreign Secretary of State offices as ...

Yemen -- San Migs -- 19 December 2011

BTW, who would be stupid enough to go to Yemen in this time of political unrest in that country? There are official travel warnings for Yemen by several European Foreign Secretary of State offices as ...

Yemen -- San Migs -- 19 December 2011

It is also a very dangerous country, the UK FCO advised all britons there for non essential reasons to leave! AVOID!

Lao Wai Wang's Scam and Threat in Guangzhou -- Tony Li -- 19 December 2011

Lao Wai Wang is an English training center scam located in Long Kuo Xi, Tian He District in China. It is not registered with Foreign Expert Bureau and therefore unauthorized to hire foreign teachers. ...

Re: Lao Wai Wang's Scam and Threat in Guangzhou -- Turnoi -- 19 December 2011

The picture below your post shows the following Chinese text: "English face to face with an American foreign teacher" If this training centre is a scam, then how about advertising the services of ...

Re: Delter Telfort CHINA: a horrible place -- Enlightened One -- 19 December 2011

The problem is not Delter. It is China. Ever since they got their WTO membership and Olympic games in 2008, China has become meaner. I was at Delter in 2002, 2004, 2005. I went there between ...

Re: Delter Telfort CHINA: a horrible place -- Dragonized -- 22 December 2011

The meanness of chinese people really needs to be understood in a way we look at children. The chinese look up to foreigners for their money, power, and charisma, at least in a perceived kind of way. ...

Re: Delter Telfort CHINA: a horrible place -- Silverboy -- 21 December 2011

I was at Delter in 2008 and personally I was treated well. I mean I was paid on time and had a nice apartment. Yes, I know it is not like that now. I am not saying Delter is a good place, like I said ...

Re: Delter Telfort CHINA: a horrible place -- Turnoi -- 19 December 2011

Do what is right because it is the right thing to do. Have a good time but do what is right. While you are here but always remember, the Chinese are getting the better end of any deal you make. I can ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Sweet Home -- 18 December 2011

Khalid, what you signed is what you get. They pay on time (BOC-direct). Between your country's situation and huijia? you better be in HJ. You teach math and I teach physics, both numbers, we know ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- khalid -- 10 January 2012

you are right sweet Home. I am in huijia now and honestly beside people have said much about this institution I am enjoying my job here.... yes they pay on time and what was mentioned. 2ndly, im ...

Re: BEST LEARNING (NOT), Corporate School Beijing - Legal work as a an ESL Teacher -- HR Best Learning,Beijing -- 17 December 2011

When a company grows big, it may naturally have a few bad apples. C[edited] is a nightmare for any employers. C[edited] was fired by company for his misconducts( very bad) and poor teaching quality ...

Re: BEST LEARNING (NOT), Corporate School Beijing - Legal work as a an ESL Teacher -- San Migs -- 18 December 2011

It is true that Z working visa has certain credentials needed to apply. It is up to new teachers to judge his qualifications to apply. No it is not! You should be aware of the credentials needed, ...

Re: BEST LEARNING (NOT), Corporate School Beijing - Legal work as a an ESL Teacher -- cunning linguist -- 18 December 2011

Your post made me laugh. An individual has posted something negative about your establishment. Your response is twofold: to concoct (allegedly) some glowing testimonials from foreign teachers which ...

Re: BEST LEARNING (NOT), Corporate School Beijing - Legal work as a an ESL Teacher -- Turnoi -- 17 December 2011

I am wondering what your qualifications are to run a crappy language mill like BEST LEARNING - besides that you are fully qualified as a business person. Apart from that, your competencies in ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Vincent -- 17 December 2011

Any recent news/referal about CITC SUDAN? I'm considering accepting a position with CITC - Sudan and would like to know from any forum members if they have any recent reference/news about the ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 17 December 2011

Good luck with this corrupt language mill! And don't come back to complain if they cheat you and will make your life miserable, you have been warned!!!! To sjlmnde.. Judging from your post, I ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Vincent -- 18 December 2011

Hi Turnoi While I do appreciate your opinion, perhaps you could be more specific? Have you worked for them? (When, what happened, who did what...etc etc) This thread is quite old and I am just ...

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 18 December 2011

I have never worked at this place, would never do so, and fortunately do not have to. You have seen the input from various posters, you can see the dates when they were posted. I can't get how ...

Travel warning regarding Khartoum, Sudan -- Turnoi -- 18 December 2011

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/Sudan

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- San Migs -- 17 December 2011

Indeed, there is a lot to be wary of in that country!

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- Turnoi -- 17 December 2011

Some more complaints about CITC Sudan: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/khartoum-sudan.284517/

Re: Cambridge CITC Sudan Teachers Beware!!!!! -- San Migs -- 18 December 2011

Sounds horrific, I for one, will avoid this country!

Re: Wall Street English -- Matt -- 16 December 2011

I see it's been quite a long time since anyone posted a reply about this. Let me give my humble two cents worth. I have been working as an English "teacher" in China for only five years. I worked ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 16 December 2011

NDI is a rubbish organization. I liked your post, but you should say that any training centre is good, they are rubbish, and the problem is systematic. I think they are not even good for part-time, ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 16 December 2011

These are my experiences. I cannot say anything about WSI but I know to stay away from any and all TC's with the exception of part-time. You cannot say anything about the place but yet here you ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 16 December 2011

He has said plenty about other places. What have you said except trying to be a smart aleck?

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 16 December 2011

Hey Matt it's great to hear this kind of stuff. People out there should know about the mid-sized cities and how they're faring, and we haven't heard anything about Hefei on this board ...

Re: Wall Street English -- foxy -- 16 December 2011

Hey Matt it's great to hear this kind of stuff. Indeed, Dragonized, and you'd have to have the imagination of a horror story novelist to make up the kind of stuff the OP has posted. Matt ...

Re: Re Bad recruiter in Thailand: AYC and K.D.ERYARAR -- James -- 15 December 2011

AYC is just fine, and so is KD/Doha. As you might imagine, some rather unsavory characters turn up in Thailand, and the unfortunate reality is that they become angry at others after failing ...

hbxnlisa@yahoo.com.cn, bdrjkitty@yahoo.com.cn, candyfromchina@yahoo.com.cn etc -- Tom -- 15 December 2011

Hi I've written a few e-mails to some people and got back one from candyfromchina@yahoo.com.cn and at first I thought this was the e-mail of the school, but turns out they are all over the place. ...

Re: hbxnlisa@yahoo.com.cn, bdrjkitty@yahoo.com.cn, candyfromchina@yahoo.com.cn etc -- Turnoi -- 15 December 2011

If you think their emails were not helpful, then stay away from them! Maybe just some clowns that are involved in identity theft or a recruiter, and in both cases it is a waste of time!

Re: Many Opportunities for Black Teachers - ESL school review -- Stacey Dash -- 14 December 2011

Hi, thank you for giving some of us prsopective teachers some hope that there is work for black teachers out there. Please may email me more infromation. My email address is mimz.angel@yahoo.com

Lucky International English Center -- twelveyearsafter -- 14 December 2011

Anyone have experience teaching at this school? I am unable to find any reviews or information about them. They are based in Tianjin but are expanding into Qingdao, Tangshan and Taiyuan.

Re: Lucky International English Center -- Turnoi -- 14 December 2011

I personally do not have any information on them either. But I guess it is private "school" or school. I suggest you contact them, apply and ask for the contract details. Then, come back on here and ...

Re: Lucky International English Center -- foxy -- 14 December 2011

Dead right, Turnoi. And the link below has the English version of the official SAFEA contract. A comparison can be made between it and a contract provided to you by an employer you've applied to ...

Re: Lucky International English Center -- Turnoi -- 14 December 2011

Sure, but that's part of the homework the applicant/newbie has to do him/herself before signing up with any "school" or school in China. A comparison can be made between it and a contract ...

Wuxi Korean School, Jiangsu A BIG AVOID -- Bak Choi -- 14 December 2011

Wuxi Korean School has been advertising repeatedly on this site and on other sites for teachers for the spring term, 2012. The school has an exceptionally bad reputation for a school in Jiangsu and ...

Re: Wuxi Korean School, Jiangsu A BIG AVOID -- Turnoi -- 14 December 2011

IT is a business and not a "school", that explains everything! If you want to be on the safe side and do not want to risk any hassle with an employer, work for public places only! Most of them are ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Sweet Home Alabama -- 14 December 2011

I would like to answer your questions, as to number 1, yes they pay on time #2 if that's the rate you signed, you'll get it less taxes, apartment fee which is 260 for each of your dependent ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Turnoi -- 14 December 2011

I would still say it is a crap place to work for - apart from all the other less pleasant things we have read about them on here before, your input indicates that there are too many deductions from ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- foxy -- 14 December 2011

"Still a crap place to work for", so you reckon, Turnoi. I'd have to agree with you, but as you and I both know, foreign teachers in China find it very hard to find good employers, because they ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Silverboy -- 14 December 2011

I think in defining what is "crap" we have to be more specific, I agree. An FT must expect a certain degree of incompetence in China, especially in the education sector. IMO, the Chinese are not very ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- blogwriter -- 15 December 2011

What you have written, Silverboy, is a load of crap. By the way, please note that crap is a noun. One normally wouldn't use "crap" as a descriptor. "Crappy," on the other hand, is an adjective. ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- cunning linguist -- 15 December 2011

Whether you agree with Silverboy's comments is not important on an open forum. However, to castigate him for his use of the word 'crap' as an adjective is incorrect. crap adjective • of ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Silverboy -- 15 December 2011

On the contrary, what I wrote is exactly right, and your childish nitpicking makes me laugh. If someone says "that school is crap" for instance, it is a desriptive phrase. This is not the "ESL ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- McDonald -- 15 December 2011

In "crap school", you could use "crap" as a part of a composite noun, couldn't you? By the way, please note that crap is a noun. One normally wouldn't use "crap" as a descriptor.

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- blogwriter -- 15 December 2011

"In "crap school", you could use "crap" as a part of a composite noun, couldn't you?" Sure. Sort of like English School, or Truck Driving School. Crap school would be a school where one is taught ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Dragonized -- 15 December 2011

You and your likes who come on here provide entertainment for us to continue what we do. Believe me it's a very "reciprocal" relationship buddy. Moreover, as an "English teacher," you should be ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- blogwriter -- 16 December 2011

Glad to be of service. By the way, what is a "relationship buddy?" Is that a buddy who helps you with your relationship problems? Oh, wait, I see; you meant "relationship, buddy." Also what is "your ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Dragonized -- 16 December 2011

You sound like that butterfly collector who was on these boards a while back called Linguisticus or something like that. I advise you to stop talking like this before you make an @$$ of yourself. ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- blogwriter -- 17 December 2011

"You sound like that butterfly collector who was on these boards a while back called Linguisticus or something like that. I advise you to stop talking like this before you make an @$$ of yourself. ...

Pretend "teachers" -- Turnoi -- 17 December 2011

Here is a reply to you as a so-called foreign "teacher" in China who thinks him/herself extremely well qualified: it is worthy to note that all the ill run and mismanaged training centers that keep ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- foxy -- 15 December 2011

Yep, I'm trying to determine from Turnoi what HE means when he says a school is crap. I think even key unis in China can be crap, for loawai, that is. Does T trust them to determine which loawai ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Silverboy -- 15 December 2011

I would have to agree with that. I will give an example of two "key" Chinese universities that have gone downhill in recent years: Wuhan University and Guangxi University. The Chinese staff at both ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Turnoi -- 15 December 2011

The school is crap if: 1. the management is disorganized, 2. they are dishonest and cheat, 3. do not provide appropriate acommodation, 4. take only money from students and do not deliver what they ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- foxy -- 15 December 2011

The school is crap if: 1. the management is disorganized, 2. they are dishonest and cheat, 3. do not provide appropriate acommodation, 4. take only money from students and do not deliver what they ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- foxy -- 15 December 2011

I think in defining what is "crap" we have to be more specific, I agree. Yep, Silverboy, you know your onions. To my mind, when we say a school is a crap one, we should mean it is so because of the ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- Turnoi -- 14 December 2011

Let me suggest a scale of crap. The best would be 'barely tolerable crap'. And the worst would be 'intolerably crap'. I would not call Tsinghua University in Beijing (one of the best, ...

Re: Re Beijing Huijia Private School -- foxy -- 14 December 2011

Turnoi, crap for whom? I'm saying crap for louwai. I'm busy right now, but you can expect a lengthy reply to substantiate my post this evening. I think when we talk about 'crap', we ...

Re: Re Hawaii Palms English School -- marie s -- 12 December 2011

Waste of time. Waste of money. I would have learned more English by hanging out at the beach.

Re: Re Hawaii Palms English School -- Turnoi -- 13 December 2011

All training centres in fact are a waste of time and money!

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Jean Plack -- 12 December 2011

Im an American teaching in the USA till the economy forced the city to do budget cuts in the education sector. I found an online teaching site and stumbled upon GDOU add asking for foreign teachers ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- JackWu -- 22 December 2011

Hello this is Mr.Wu of Guangdong`s leagal counsel for foreign workers in Guangdong province. It is true,many college degree`s have been taken and copied for current teachers employed that that ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- cunning linguist -- 22 December 2011

Mr Wu, is it customary for Chinese government officers to use a hotmail address?

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- JackWu -- 24 December 2011

it is customary to protect myself and identy. thank you to notice my not so private email address.

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- cunning linguist -- 25 December 2011

Monday 26 December 2011. Sir, you have posted on the forum: “Hello this is Mr.Wu of Guangdong`s leagal counsel for foreign workers in Guangdong province.” When asked about your hotmail email ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 26 December 2011

I am suspicious, too, and I wouldn't believe a word that this Mr. Jack Wu has said. There are other more subtle reasons but they need not concern us here for the time being. It seems that we are ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- OneinChina -- 27 December 2011

There is a job agent, who claims to have gone to school in New England.(He sounds American on the phone. ) But he would not be a job agent if he actually graduated from where he said he did. I have ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 27 December 2011

There is a job agent, who claims to have gone to school in New England.(He sounds American on the phone. ) But he would not be a job agent if he actually graduated from where he said he did. Maybe, ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- foxy -- 28 December 2011

Sounds like 'Perlandas and Fenny', the 'Bonnie and Clyde' of China's EFL industry, a bottom-feeder agent lurking behind a big boulder of a stream! One of your hungry crocs is ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 28 December 2011

Sounds like 'Perlandas and Fenny', the 'Bonnie and Clyde' of China's EFL industry, a bottom-feeder agent lurking behind a big boulder of a stream These two are the delboy and ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 27 December 2011

This is a common scam amongst agents/recruiters...big up and play up their so called overseas education to lure others to trust them. These TC's need to be obliterated, I see pumpkin english is ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 28 December 2011

Either teach English which becomes Chinglish then on the part of the students, or eat pumpkin pies all the time..LOL what can a FT possibly be expected to do there, teach how to make pumpkin pie, and ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 26 December 2011

It seems that we are dealing with a big degree scam mill at a public university called Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang, China Indeed! And charming zhang has been the ringleader from the ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- cunning linguist -- 25 December 2011

For the pedants I meant 'suffix' rather than "prefix".

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 25 December 2011

I am suspicious of your intent and your motives in posting here Me too! He/she seemed to get decidedly defensive when you asked about the reason for the hotmail email address? Needs to be taken with ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 22 December 2011

It is true,many college degree`s have been taken and copied for current teachers employed that that university This must surely be illegal and encourages me to continue my campaign against them! This ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 13 December 2011

I deeply regret that you are facing these problems. But Ocean University is a crap operation in Guangdong, China, and it has been clearly stated on this board several times. Years ago, when I still ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 13 December 2011

But Ocean University is a crap operation in Guangdong, China, and it has been clearly stated on this board several times. Indeed! And while charming zhang is at the helm of the ship in this crappy ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Jean Plack -- 17 December 2011

She wont be at the helm after late Febuary. I was informed her and her captain may be boarding a new boat by then, along with some shipmates; a couple foreign teachers working there who have ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Jean Plack -- 14 December 2011

I have reported my lost passport to immigration. I was so ashamed to to admit I mailed it to a China college. It was my first time to ever own a passport and was so proud of owning one. Mrs. Zhang ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 15 December 2011

Mrs. Zhang was both my recruiter and my future foreign affares officer. I only know of Mr "Charming" (sic) Zhang, unless that is his wife you are referring to. And yes this place needs to be shut ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Kenny -- 15 December 2011

The best way for you to get a good job in China is to contact the recruiter whose link I have posted below. This recruiter is honest and reliable. When you get issued with your new passport you'd ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Jean Plack -- 15 December 2011

Thank you Kenny but I wont attempt to teach in China after this ordeal I experience. Looking at your website you advised(http://www.chinajob.com/index.php) I noticed Mrs Zhang was one of their ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Silverboy -- 12 December 2011

I am sorry to say this, but you are incredibly naive to send someone your ORIGINAL passport in the mail. NEVER send ( mail ) your passport to any school or university in China. If you are in USA, ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 13 December 2011

Im screwed because I trusted them Famous last words for many foreign businessmen and teachers in China. Hope you get your passport back though!

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- foxy -- 12 December 2011

unless you never heard of the books. Actually, I hadn't, and I needn't have. Famous children's books are not read by all children. Thanks anyway for clearing the misunderstanding up. ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Silverboy -- 12 December 2011

Well, one thing is for sure, "famous children's books" aren't read by children in China! Look at some of the absoulute driven that passes as "textbooks" in China. Sadly, we have fools like ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 13 December 2011

I highly doubt that they can read at all!!! Sadly, we have fools like "Suzhou Kevin", and "Fuzhou Kevin" who think they are "educators" because they can read textbooks in class.

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Kanadian -- 11 December 2011

You are 100% correct ! AVOID employment agents ! ! ! ! !

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Paratrooper -- 12 December 2011

Name the sodding recruiter who sold your hide to NDI please!!!!Raoul's not God! Unlike you, I've had good results after using a couple of recruiters! I don't want to use your former one!

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 21 December 2011

Name the sodding recruiter who sold your hide to NDI please!!!!Raoul's not God! Unlike you, I've had good results after using a couple of recruiters! I don't want to use your former one! ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- THE KNOWLEDGE -- 21 December 2011

You take the liberty of misquoting. Not only that, but you dare to denigrate a poster who has praised THE ONLY OFFICIALLY APPROVED CHINESE RECRUITER. Apart from being Raoul's official 'spin ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 21 December 2011

Well, isn't that special. ;-{D I'm sorry, but an endorsement from the Chinese government officials doesn't exactly reassure...not in a country where approvals, certifications, and all ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Turnoi -- 21 December 2011

you might see that having one good result absolutely DOES NOT make using recruiters a good idea. Dead right!

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Garth Davy -- 21 December 2011

This is a wonderful proffesional recruiter that MATCHES foreigners to schools and colleges. That is very important for both the teacher and the school (or college). Raoul has been out of China to ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Peanuts Vendor -- 22 December 2011

This is a wonderful proffesional recruiter that MATCHES foreigners to schools and colleges. That is very important for both the teacher and the school (or college). Raoul has been out of China to ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Mia -- 22 December 2011

There is a connection between obviously ill-trained people and muddy people in Chinese ESL - they have no place to go elsewhere! Absolutely! And those foreigners with second-rate English can only ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 22 December 2011

And those foreigners with second-rate English can only get jobs through recruiters or at training centers. Recruiters don't care if they're selling petend teachers. It all boils down to ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Silverboy -- 23 December 2011

Well, you stated the obvious in that post, ofcourse the Chinese don't know if our English is good or not. Most Chinese English teachers are nothing but a joke, but some of them have the audacity ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Denzil -- 23 December 2011

Chinese English teachers are nothing but a joke, but some of them have the audacity to lecture us native speakers. I'd say it'd be more accurate to describe them as Chinglish teachers! So, ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- foxy -- 23 December 2011

I don't think it's English language ability...I seriously doubt if most Chinese schools can really judge whether our English is good or not, which in itself is kinda sad and scary. Indeed! ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 21 December 2011

Raoul has been out of China to long to know the currant situation here. I assume you mean "TOO long to know the CURRENT situation." You must be one fine English teacher. ;-{D Anyway, it's not ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- foxy -- 21 December 2011

NDI is New Dynamic Institute, a disreputable language mill chain, whichever way that Westerner got entangled with them. He names NDI, but not the recruiter. Yet he berates all recruiters. That ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Silverboy -- 21 December 2011

There are SOME recruiters that are OK, but they are a very small minority. Anyway, IMO they are all lazy, they get paid substantial amounts of money for doing virtually nothing, they are just ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- foxy -- 22 December 2011

As for NDI, it is a rubbish organization, and any recruiter who places an FT with them is a crook. Indeed, NDI is as bad as you say. But that poster who's complained has bad English. I've ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 21 December 2011

There are SOME recruiters that are OK, but they are a very small minority. Anyway, IMO they are all lazy, they get paid substantial amounts of money for doing virtually nothing, they are just ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 21 December 2011

Ah, right, thanks, Foxy. NDI does indeed stink on ice. The Suzhou branch offered lousy facilities, lousy materials, and lousy compensation....and tended to hire the absolute lowest bottom of the ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Peanuts Vendor -- 22 December 2011

and tended to hire the absolute lowest bottom of the Suzhou local barrel. Kevin H.??????

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Raoul F. Duke -- 22 December 2011

and tended to hire the absolute lowest bottom of the Suzhou local barrel. Kevin H.?????? Well, no. Not THAT low a bottom. ;-{D

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- The Druide -- 12 December 2011

Raoul's not God! Raoul certainly is not God, and he never claimed to be. But maybe unlike you, he is an honest person always ready to provide accurate information on the many pitfalls that exist ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Paratrooper -- 12 December 2011

And you, who are you???? I'm only someone who would apreciate posters supplying information about sodding recruiters who have duped them when they are duped by them and how that occured. That ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Turnoi -- 12 December 2011

This general warning is in place - there are no honest and trustworthy recruiters in China. And agents aren't either. Paratroopers simply do not know about such things... To my reckoning, he ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- foxy -- 13 December 2011

Paratroopers simply do not know about such things... Exactly, T, That's why they're paratroopers. but old foxes do know about such things. That said, we both know what Raoul F Duke wants us ...

Re: Why Raoul F. Duke Wants You To Avoid Recruiters- ALL Recruiters, Everywhere, Any Time! -- Turnoi -- 13 December 2011

Anyway, please follow the link below to see what somebody else, neither a paratrooper nor an old fox, wants us to do! Seems that an old fox and a nasty crocodile share the same opinion, isn't ...

American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Jamie White -- 10 December 2011

I'd like to post a warning regarding specific experience at the American Language Center in Tetouan, but only specifically about the director, Joel H[edited], and not the institution itself. Let ...

Re: American Language Center (ALC), Tetouan, Morocco -- Jamie White -- 22 December 2011

Here's an interesting development: I gave 30 days notice, as required by my contract. In the past weeks, the director has literally refused to speak to me. At all. I have taught the last month, ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Dragonized -- 10 December 2011

This is a sad case which happens in so many countries. The locals have good intentions, but when an egomaniac comes along they spoil all of the fun. I think the world has too many western egomaniacs ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- foxy -- 10 December 2011

He has insulted my teaching style (he has said my class isn't joyful, I don't connect with my students, my activities aren't fun) without ever really offering constructive, specific ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- San Migs -- 10 December 2011

Of course, here in Chins you can teach without a degree, or with a forged one I often wonder about this...when you apply for the work visa process, how do they know or verify if you have an honest ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- foxy -- 10 December 2011

I think it's the responsibility of the provincial education bureaus to verify academic qualifications, and then issue an FEC to degreed foreigners. Without an FEC, it's impossible to obtain a ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- The Druide -- 10 December 2011

when you apply for the work visa process, how do they know or verify if you have an honest degree or a khao san rd copied one?! Unfortunately, they do not check, and they do not have a proper ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- San Migs -- 10 December 2011

That rubbish Zhuhai place needs to be shut down at once! Then I found Zhuhai to be a very GW type city anyway, crappy beach, crappy sea, and the city is full of whores and scammers and thieves. ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- sentinel -- 11 December 2011

Judging by this post, and your other recent ones, it's painfully apparent you've come back from HK as delightfully charming, if not more so, than you were prior to your midnight run from the ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Silverboy -- 11 December 2011

I think you are wrong, but who cares if someone does a midnight run? Remember, if a Chinese employer treats a foreigner in a shabby fashion they deserve everything they get. Maybe YOU are a Chinese? ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Turnoi -- 12 December 2011

Maybe YOU are a Chinese? No, this sentinel poster is definitely NOT Chinese, a Chinese person does not write like that; it must be a Western grovelling weasel - perhaps someone who used post on here ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- San Migs -- 11 December 2011

More GW talk IMO Exactly what it is, but these rubbish GW's are too arrogant and blind to see it? Where's the GW bazooka?

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Turnoi -- 12 December 2011

Where's the GW bazooka? In the pond next to my house with all the green beasts in it...LOL

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- San Migs -- 11 December 2011

Some things do not change. Neither can a leopard shed his spots! I was going to ask you two questions, but it is too early for all that malarkey. so only 1: If I am a leopard, then what kind of ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Turnoi -- 11 December 2011

Neither can a leopard shed his spots! And you can't shed your own spot of a grovelling weasel either...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- San Migs -- 11 December 2011

Well said Turnoi! These GW's and there is a glut of them on these boards, want us to back down and cave in, so they can spread their greedy amoral sales pitches about how great the place they ...

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- Silverboy -- 11 December 2011

I totally agree, except the bit about the whores, they are just doing an honest job IMO. As for the bit about liars, cheats, thieves, rubbish beaches etc, spot on!

Re: American Language Center, Tetouan, Morocco -- San Migs -- 11 December 2011

except the bit about the whores, they are just doing an honest job IMO Sorry for that inclusion.

Meten English, Wuhan, China -- droc -- 7 December 2011

I've just been offered a position at Meten's branch in Wuhan, China. I haven't been shown a contract yet, nor does the school provide housing, although they assure me that I'll be ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Scottie_wuhan -- 11 December 2011

Hi Man 2 of us just finished our contract at Wuhan Meten, I was going to post my review, but than I saw your post, I bet you are the replacement for us. First Wuhan is a great quiet city, its not a ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- droc -- 22 December 2011

scottie wuhan, Thanks for the detailed account! This was definitely some useful insight into their operations. To let you know, I opted out of signing on with Meten Wuhan. I'm glad I was able to ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 7 December 2011

Simply don't work for them if you have found some complaints on them! I have not worked for them but I know a lot about them, and so my advice is: Look somewhere else! Meten is utter crap!

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- d-roc -- 8 December 2011

Problem is, I haven't found any school that's really complaint free. Obviously, this is to be expected. However, every now and then you get someone harping on how awful they find a school, ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- foxy -- 8 December 2011

I know that many also consider Aston a "crap school," but to be honest, as an unexperienced teacher coming over for their first job in the market, I kind of expect to teach at a crap school for the ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 8 December 2011

Her English name is Anne, and her e-mail is as follows.... That picture below your post, is that "Anne"? Or is it perhaps the alter ego of my good old fella Bourbon Greg?...LOL

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- foxy -- 9 December 2011

That picture below your post, is that "Anne"? Or is it perhaps the alter ego of my good old fella Bourbon Greg?...LOL It's neither. Joking apart, and for any readers slow on the uptake or with ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- The Druide -- 12 December 2011

it's of my favourite creature, the fox. It's no coincidence that I post as 'foxy', by the way. Well, I must agree that foxy fox looks quite intelligent on the pic...certainly a bit ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Dragonized -- 12 December 2011

I belive gregmcd tried labeling people as the "famous five". Considering it's not exactly an original term the less we and others mention it the less it will appear on this board until it ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- d-roc -- 9 December 2011

Foxy, thanks a bunch for referring me to a reliable recruiter. I'll contact her right away. Hopefully she'll be able to assist me. I'll let you know how it goes. I'd wished from the ...

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 9 December 2011

Hi, d-roc, mail me personally if you want - I have some more practical suggestions for you regarding your job search. Good luck anyway!

Re: Meten English, Wuhan, China -- Turnoi -- 8 December 2011

The only schools I would recommend are public middle schools, unis, and colleges. But they pay less, and you also work less giving you the same to make a few bucks extra by private lessons. However, ...

Fujian Agriculture and Forestry University Orient College (FAFUOC) -- new2china -- 4 December 2011

I am about to accept a teaching job at "Fujian Agriculture and Forestry University Orient College (FAFUOC)" Does any kind member here know anything about this college? Ive been looking at message ...

Re: Fujian Agriculture and Forestry University Orient College (FAFUOC) -- Turnoi -- 5 December 2011

I haven't worked for this uni, and I can't say whether it is good or bad. But the fact is that there seems to be no complaint from former teachers about them in the web, and that a good sign ...

Re: Fujian Agriculture and Forestry University Orient College (FAFUOC) -- new2china -- 6 December 2011

I have talked to current and former teachers from there and also I couldnt find nothing bad about them on the internet either. So many colleges I recieved offers from seemed to have a bad rep on the ...

Re: Fujian Agriculture and Forestry University Orient College (FAFUOC) -- Turnoi -- 6 December 2011

I suggest you try, and good luck!

Bien Hoa, Vietnam - American Vietnamese English Center -- C -- 4 December 2011

Just a heads up for anyone thinking of applying or accepting a job from this language "school" close to HCMC... It also goes by the Vietnamese name of Anh Van My Viet, AVC and AVEC. The female owner ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

Neither have I any sympathy for the current global economy in any way whatsoever. I do not like the Wall Street Stock Exchange capitalism that has crept in global economy ruining national economies ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 8 December 2011

Correct, you also don't have to comment on it nor do you have to bring it into a discussion as to why a particular school sucks, as has been done a few times in other posts and not just by you. ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

How many C.R.A,P. pretend "schools" are there in China? Thousands of thousands of thousands..... Where, Which ones, and more importantly, why?

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 2 December 2011

Where, Which ones, and more importantly, why? I do not have the time to list all the many thousands of crap pretend "schools" there, but Wall Street Chinglish is definitely one of them! And there ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Adam -- 3 December 2011

Turnoi, you are mis-informed regarding Wall Street English. We don't recruit just anyone! You fail to realize that the reason there are no complaints to be found on the net about the company is ...

Re: Wall Street English -- steve -- 14 December 2011

how do the univeristy degrees get verified for prospective teachers?

Re: Wall Street English -- Joan -- 15 December 2011

It's a valid point. I'd be interested to know how they do it too. I'm sure other readers would like to know too. Such a prestigius company run by foreigners couldn't be decieved ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 16 December 2011

Yeah they're "prestigous" all right. But a better word would be Notorious.

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 15 December 2011

Wrong! For a start, it is not a "prestigious" company, don't make me laugh! Ofcourse they don't check or verify degrees, they don't care, and a reputable Western university would not ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 14 December 2011

What has that got to do with anything? Irrelevant, and off topic. A rubbish school is a rubbish school, if the teachers have real degrees or not makes no difference. Also remember, the majority of ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 15 December 2011

Also remember, the majority of FT's in China do not have education related degrees Indeed my BA is in English Lit, with some modules on English in the Classroom and Humanities. I don't see ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 3 December 2011

Our reputation as a corporate trainer is second to none! That ostentatious statement alone, would make me never want to set one toe inside your so called school! Be honest, instead of being amoral!

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 3 December 2011

Our reputation as a corporate trainer is second to none! You're ability to not be rattled by anonymous posters like us and staying cool to the point where you need to address us on this board ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 4 December 2011

where you need to address us on this board and defend your company is also second to none! He needs to defend this company, why? Because they are useless in a useless "market"?

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 3 December 2011

Our reputation as a corporate trainer is second to none! I do not care at all what you say your reputation is. Just the term "corporate trainer" you are using says it all. I do not single out Wall ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

The Interested Party poster is going to mutate into a grovelling weasel by suggesting training centres are good to work for. He is entitled to his opinion, and we are entitled to ours....let us leave ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 2 December 2011

Having them and sharing them without giving any real reasons is another. The reason is a grovelling weasel is and will always be a grovelling weasel, and Wall Street Chinglish is full of grovelling ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

why should you be trusted? Same question back at you...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 2 December 2011

I leave it to other people whether they trust my posts or not, I would not care anyway. The same with me in case of posts made by other people. And BTW, I don't trust you!

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

the crappy world of Chinese ESL If it is so crappy then why are you involved in it...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 2 December 2011

I am not involved in it but I had been, and that was my enlightment - I found it was total crap with a lot of people having their share in this profits of this shitty "market".

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

No, so far I haven't seen anything useful, and that what I have seen is crap. And you have seen for example.......

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

Then, what is your agenda on here on here by posting your input that does not seem to be sound and well-based? Now this I really had to laugh at hard. This thread alone demonstrates just how unsound ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 2 December 2011

CRAP/CHINGLISH/GW I wager you have used this vocabulary more times than anything else, even prepositions :P Right, in case of postings like yours, I would not spend any more time and effort! To ...

this is what you want to know before working in China -- neil -- 2 December 2011

Wall Street pays the most about 16,000 rmb 6 hours a day webi pays 15000 but you get same because 4000 is for rent so you pay less tax any jobs for less than 15000 do not take unless you only work 20 ...

reply to dupedinkurdistan -- Britannia Educational Services -- 1 December 2011

These alleged allegations have been taken very seriously by the Management at Britannia Educational Services and we would like to refute these claims by a disgruntled employee who we know to have ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 1 December 2011

Yes, ofcourse, asking for a degree and CELTA will ensure that only quality FT's apply at Wall Street English.......LOL! What a load of garbage! HA,HA,HA, HA,HA,HA! ROTFL! Wall Street = RUBBISH!

Re: Wall Street English -- tom thumb -- 19 December 2011

As somebody who works for WSE, i can assure you that a CELTA isn't a requirement to get a job. All that's needed to get a job is a TEFL certificate of any description, the ability to give a ...

Re: Wall Street English -- neil -- 2 December 2011

Wall street is better than WEB International ,,,,,,, And CELTA is a good course but teachers never use system because [edited] chinese are not social and just want to meet a westerner,,, wall street ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 1 December 2011

This is an utterly rubbish place that much like World, Birmy swirmy, EF, Web, all of these places should not exist!

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 1 December 2011

I love how rubbish schools in China have fancy names for employees, like "regional manager", "teaching co-ordinater", and they even use words like "curriculum"............LOL! I thought only ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

I love how rubbish schools in China have fancy names for employees, like "regional manager", "teaching co-ordinater", and they even use words like "curriculum"............LOL! I thought only ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 2 December 2011

You "care about the students progress". What are you? A hero or something? You act and dress professionally? So you wear a suit and tie to class........LOL! You are nothing special, just a teacher at ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 2 December 2011

I am just here now to get whatever I can, cheap beer, jiaozi, qie zi, free sex with twenty somethings, whatever. I don't need to be given a lecture by a GW like yourself. There is a lot of sense ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 2 December 2011

That is really how I feel now. I could not really care less about Chinese people anymore. Just let them continue with their boring, pathetic, meaningless lives. They will never learn! Now I will just ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 2 December 2011

If anyone would like to actually find out for themselves what WSE/Pearson is like then do your own research into the company and I guarantee you will see a completely different picture to the one ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 2 December 2011

I must second what the Dragonized poster has said - working for a language mill like Wall Street Chinglish certainly means that you are earning your money there, but that's it! But don't try ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 2 December 2011

We work just as hard at the jobs we have. I've agreed to take more classes on the fly, proctor exams on my days off, go out with students and let them practice english with me, etc. That ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 4 December 2011

Never doubted how hard you work nor have I put down the place you happen to be working, I don't know where you work for that matter.

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

If the work I do does not contribute to this society then neither does yours or anyone else who teaches English here. I pay taxes, that is contributing to this society. I teach people how to speak a ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 1 December 2011

Hey IP. You'll be lucky and looking at the post dates it seems like you have been trying to get a reason from these people much longer than I have, and failed. I notice some of the responses were ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

There's nowt as strange as folk!!! Never more applicable after the misfortune of conversing with these oddballs. It took you a long time to get it, John! But finally you managed to....We ...

Web International Shanghai -- James -- 30 November 2011

Web international is a terrible school to work for,,you will be treated as a dog and chinese staff will hate you because you get paid more than them, the lesson plans are terrible, also they employ ...

Re: Leaving your own traces in the sand -- John -- 29 November 2011

I can live quite well on the sale of my books... [edited]

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 29 November 2011

If you want to be be taken seriously then stop writing garbage! How strange!! I was just thinking the exact same thing about you. So fill us all in on exactly why Wall street is crap then Silverboy, ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 29 November 2011

I do not not have to explain myself to you or anyone else. I have credibility in ESL, and you don't. I don't get paid to say nice things about rubbish schools, I don't take bribes, but I ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 30 November 2011

Yet you seem to just "expect" people to take you seriously and offer nothing in the way of evidence or fact to back up your opinions. I have told all reading here to go and investigate the situation ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 29 November 2011

Well then you are really in trouble since your university, assuming that you are an American citizen is precluded by law from releasing any information about your student records. The Family ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

John, please take a broom and help us clean Gobi desert from all the sand; we simply cannot do all the work by ourselves...LOL

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 1 December 2011

[edited] please take a moment to actually post some legitimate reasons for you attitude and your opinion; we simply cannot do all the work by ourselves...LOL

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 29 November 2011

You need to read the post more carefully. If you do so you will notice there is a lot more negative information beside the lack of fire and safety regaulations at WSE. And I also agree with CSS: To ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 29 November 2011

I have noticed that more foreigners in China are starting to really stand up for their rights, and it is about time I would agree. I am acutely aware that at age 35, I am not getting a pension here, ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 30 November 2011

So forgive me but where is this discussion going now? Again, do not take one fundamental issue with this country and then use it to bad mouth an individual company. China is rife with flaws in its ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 30 November 2011

This is the kind of grovelling weasel talk that we have read on here so often. Regarding rubbish Wall Street Chinglish, it is clear it is not a decent school ant that it is the same kind of rubbish ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 1 December 2011

Well said Turnoi! The beer is on me!

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

The beer is on me! Tsingtao or Tuborg beer? Anyway, cheers!

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 1 December 2011

This is the kind of grovelling weasel talk that we have read on here so often. Regarding rubbish Wall Street Chinglish, it is clear it is not a decent school ant that it is the same kind of rubbish ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

I can't begin to comment on the conditions or motivation in other places that I haven't worked at but I can speak about WSE. Because you are working there (as you say), you can't see all ...

Re: turnoi silverboy and yaddayaddayadda -- c2 -- 12 January 2012

is anybody else on these boards sick of posts by turnoi, silverboy saying nothing but across-the-board-bashing of schools?!?! i mean i appreciate the effort to enlighten and guide teachers about diff ...

Re: turnoi silverboy and yaddayaddayadda -- Turnoi -- 13 January 2012

hard to imagine they have first-hand experience with all the schools they so swiftly disregard. sure the china esl market is full of pitfalls.. Pitfalls and problems in Chinese ESL are not single ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Dragonized -- 12 January 2012

Is everyone sick of seeing the constant influx of weasels that pop up on these boards? I certainly am! The arrogance of these people, some of whom have little experience with life is disturbing. ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- ordinary decent teacher -- 13 January 2012

wow but you are boring!

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Dragonized -- 14 January 2012

Hi to you too, Mr. Interesting Name Person

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 13 January 2012

The stagnated, boring drivel constantly spewed by these cleverless folks who think they have become sinofied only prove that theory all the much more!! Unfortunately, the species grovvelingus ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Dragonized -- 14 January 2012

Happy Chinese New Year to you too San Migs! Hope in the year of the dragon there will be less drivel posted on these boards by shady individuals.

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 15 January 2012

Cheers drags! The UAE beckons for me, had enough of earning low money and no girlfriend...If I am going to teach, may as well get paid for it and build a nest egg so to speak. Hope China is working ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Dragonized -- 16 January 2012

Actually, I'm on vacation right now after leaving the gulf region. Just visiting some friends. Maybe I will go back to the gulf as well. Hook me up if you have something!

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 16 January 2012

Actually, I'm on vacation right now after leaving the gulf region. Just visiting some friends. Maybe I will go back to the gulf as well. Hook me up if you have something! Small world! I'm ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- c2 -- 13 January 2012

im just gonna post one more reply cause i really dont have the patience or time to be dragged into some kind of internet feud that a lot of ppl here seem to thrive at doing! you accuse me of being ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Dragonized -- 14 January 2012

I don't feel empowered, just trying to talk about some things and how thing work. I don't care about attacking you or hurting your feelings. When ppl disagree on something the argument can ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Turnoi -- 15 January 2012

Don't waste your time and energy anymore on posters lime c2. They won't take any well-meant advice; OK, let them have their own experience! I would not bother anymore to help them in any way; ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- Dragonized -- 16 January 2012

Of course, you are right about that. Also it very well might be that these weasels have stayed in china long enough to pick up the arrogant attitude of the locals. The lack of intelligence and common ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 16 January 2012

Also it very well might be that these weasels have stayed in china long enough to pick up the arrogant attitude of the locals. The lack of intelligence and common sense in china gives people the ...

Re: GW and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 13 January 2012

im just gonna post one more reply If you hadn't posted that first risible post, then you wouldn't be getting the s**t you are now. As it is you are just going to have to deal with what is ...

Re: turnoi silverboy and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 12 January 2012

i would suggest a challenge for these guys... gives us a top 10 reputable schools that uve worked for and recommend instead of just saying negative things about every school. moreover put your money ...

Re: turnoi silverboy and yaddayaddayadda -- Turnoi -- 13 January 2012

With your poor usage of the english language, and GW attitude, perhaps you are the one who should prove yourself!! As for the "poor usage of the English language", the c2 poster definitely must be a ...

Re: turnoi silverboy and yaddayaddayadda -- San Migs -- 13 January 2012

they are the weakest in Chinese ESL and need to obey their crappy bosses most as they otherwise would be fired. It is for this reason that most grovelling weasels popping up here are pretend ...

Re: turnoi silverboy and yaddayaddayadda -- c2 -- 13 January 2012

right... pile on the name calling...im deeply hurt. for the record I asked if anyone else on here was suspicious of all the bashing... its virtually impossible to find some post thread without ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

would help make this thread at least somewhat meaningful. The only meaningfulness in this thread is to keep newbies (hopefully) away from signing up with your "school"!

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 30 November 2011

If your feelings on Chinas current state regarding such matters is that much of a problem for you then you should not be here, plain and simple To use a chinese expression "fei hua", or in english ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 29 November 2011

Wall St is C.R.A.P, and you want proof, OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS MAN! Listening...................Pin drops... Oh, I think I heard a crap there possibly even a Chinglish but the fact still remains I ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 29 November 2011

I can gurantee you I would NEVER apply for a job at WSE or any other language mill. It is only a desperado like yourself who would work there!

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 30 November 2011

I can gurantee you I would NEVER apply for a job at WSE or any other language mill. It is only a desperado like yourself who would work there! Yeah ok SB. To everyone else, I invite all to come and ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 30 November 2011

My opinion about Wall Street Chinglish has already been formed, and that is "it is still shit". End of the story. and wall street is a much better school but it is still shit ,,,the chinese are fools ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 1 December 2011

Your opinion..... I have yet to see anything which would constitute your opinion with a detailed explanation and why make a post telling me your opinion has been clearly formed only to include a link ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

WSE is much better but still shit again with absolutely no reasons why he thinks that. In comparison X, Y is still much better, but it is still shit in absolute terms, and it's only "better" in ...

Excellent TEFL Teacher Training at GLV Zhuhai...LOL -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

They even have their own teacher training courses: http://www.glvchina.com/english/teachers/tefl.php Course Fee: 1,590 USD What will you get for this money? For example this: Mei-Ling Qu (China)TEFL ...

Scoala Mea - Bucharest -- Juan Martinez -- 27 November 2011

Teachers contacting or being contacted by Scoala Mea in Bucharest Romania should be very cautious and weary. Although the school can offer a relatively high salary to Native English Speakers, it ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

THE THINGS ON THE WEBSITE ARE LIES.ACCORDING TO A CLAUSE ATTACHED TO HER VISA BY THE PSB,SHE CAN MAKE COPIES AND COFFEE,BUT CANNOT TEACH.SHE HAS BEEN BANNED FROM CLASSROOMS BY THE PSB.THIS INFO I GOT ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Leo -- 26 November 2011

Fake school.Fake administrators.Teachers on fake degree. Avoid.Avoid.Avoid.

GLV Zhuhai site??? -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Is it that place? http://www.glvchina.com/english/teachers/teacher.php My crocs could work there as well...highly qualified specialists!...LOL

Re: GLV Zhuhai site??? -- San Migs -- 27 November 2011

Crocs again???!!! Are they the Tana river variety though? Yesterday, near the lake (sic), we can call it a pond, in this small town here, I saw 6 monkeys being made to dance and perform jumps and ...

Re: GLV Zhuhai site??? -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

Yesterday, near the lake (sic), we can call it a pond, in this small town here, I saw 6 monkeys being made to dance and perform jumps and spins and tricks. Mhhhhmmm......well, it is quite likely ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Here, you will find some older postings regarding GLV Zhuhai: http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?noframes;read=21814

Chinglish TEFL trainer at GLV, Zhuhai...LOL -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Mei-Ling Qu (China)TEFL Trainer Mei-Ling from Shanxi, to complete their university studies in Beijing, January 2005, received TESOL (teaching English outside) certificate, and in 2004 joined peace in ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai:Pretending to "teach" English but writing Chinglish....LOL -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Kevin.M (India) From India, Kevin, India has many languages ??and dialects of the learning experience, and able to speak a highly advanced form of Cantonese and Mandarin. He experienced from his ...

Another "great" teacher from the USA at GLV, Zhuhai..LOL -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Simon Fang (USA) Simon was born in China, after the United States to study, and received U.S. Boke Lin City, bachelor's degree in Law, University of California. Added to the GLV in the family, he ...

Re: Another "great" teacher from the USA at GLV, Zhuhai..LOL -- Jason -- 1 December 2011

I am wondering why all you guys care about GLV Zhuhai if you don't like or appreciate the school.....just wondering why some people are spending so much time bashing the school..... did someone ...

Re: Another "great" teacher from the USA at GLV, Zhuhai..LOL -- Dragonized -- 1 December 2011

Hi Jason, this isn't about being fired or venting from a bad work experience at GLV Zhuhai. Generally speaking china is filled with these clown "schools" and they are all the same in regards to ...

Re: Another "great" teacher from the USA at GLV, Zhuhai..LOL -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

Humor is a good way to show people what bad business is all about Yes, that's it what it is all about...Some more serious points being made by using humour and fun as a vehicle, a common way to ...

Re: Another "great" teacher from the USA at GLV, Zhuhai..LOL -- Turnoi -- 1 December 2011

did someone get fired and venting? No, as far as I know, none of us who have been posting.... You see, the Chinglish they are using and the stupid things they write on their sites make a lot of fun, ...

Bokelin City in California is on the moon...LOL -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

and received U.S. Boke Lin City, bachelor's degree in Law, University of California. For linguistic reasons, my guess is that these clowns translated this "profile" from a Chinese text directly ...

Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Another ridiculous thing here: Joanne Seymour (USA) Since 2009, Joanne joined peace, from the British port city of Plymouth, graduated from the prestigious University of Leeds, UK, Chinese and ...

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- Silverboy -- 30 November 2011

Joanne "holds an English teacher"...........LOL!

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- Turnoi -- 30 November 2011

Joanne "holds an English teacher"...........LOL! Wrong, SB! In their correct grammar of Chinglish, it is: ...a English teacher You can take my word for it, this Chinglish form is the only correct ...

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- ROFL -- 30 November 2011

...and holds him softly and nicely and .......

..and.... -- Turnoi -- 30 November 2011

...and holds him softly and nicely and ....... ...speaks to him/her in Chinglish! gkubgkubgub....LOL

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- Contributor -- 30 November 2011

Ahh, Turnoi! You are most definitely clever and humorous! The reality is that GLV’s website has a glitch. Joanna’s C.V., and the C.V.s of the other native English speaking teachers, was ...

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- Turnoi -- 30 November 2011

I checked that, and it it true. However, it does not change the fact that they still claim that "China" is in Zhuhai, and so I will claim that London is in Italy!...LOL The reality is that GLV’s ...

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- cunning linguist -- 27 November 2011

"...and holds a English Teacher." Joanne must let go of this English teacher at once!

Re: Native teacher from US writing Chinglish - GLV Zhuhai: are they a complete joke, or what? -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

It is "Joanne" herself who is claimed to have written this. Definitely a lie on that site!

According to GLV Zhuhai, "British port city of Plymouth" and "University of Leeds, UK" are in the US -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

Correct!...LOL Joanne Seymour (USA) Since 2009, Joanne joined peace, from the British port city of Plymouth, graduated from the prestigious University of Leeds, UK,

Re: According to GLV Zhuhai, "British port city of Plymouth" and "University of Leeds, UK" are in th -- ROFL -- 28 November 2011

Laughing my ASS off!!!! Another example of the shit they offer to innocent students: Errin, from the California Los Angeles, he traveled to Japan as English teachers,he came to China in Zhuhai, many ...

Re: According to GLV Zhuhai, "British port city of Plymouth" and "University of Leeds, UK" are in th -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

Errin, from the California Los Angeles, he traveled to Japan as English teachers,he came to China in Zhuhai, "China in Zhuhai" - of course, that's correct!...LOL "China" is a small village in an ...

A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

Errin, from the California Los Angeles, he traveled to Japan as English teachers,he came to China in Zhuhai, I highly suspect that they even did not care to "translate" their Chinese teacher profile ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- San Migs -- 28 November 2011

But in Chinese, the country always comes first before a place name (following a basic rule that larger entities like a country precede a smaller entity like a place name) - the same with family name ...

Another linguistic note of deep insight...LOL -- Turnoi -- 29 November 2011

nteresting points-these cultures have far more in common, than they would ever care to admit!LOL! Yes, it is the same in terms of social relationships: The bigger guy, a boss comes first, and the ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- ROFL -- 28 November 2011

This is the mother of all profiles: Let us work together to understand Jerry. Jerry from the beautiful calm of Melbourne, Australia, Australia has made ??in computer design degree and music education ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- Silverboy -- 29 November 2011

Haha, that is so funny! I really am almost rolling on the floor laughing! These people are so stupid! Born with half a brain cell by the sound of it! "The beautiful calm of Melbourne" another ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- ROFL -- 22 December 2011

That Bahai man called Fryback is threatening the "teachers". Old man!just shut up and see the pathetic condition in which your "school" is in.Lies, Lies and Lies won't take you anywhere. What do ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- Rob -- 3 January 2012

Who is Fryback?The owner or one of the "highly experienced" jokers with "rich life experience"?This school is a scam.Avoid it. PS:I have read similar things on a Chinese forum.That "hotdog" stuff was ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- Silverboy -- 23 December 2011

At least they can teach people how to make hotdogs.............LOL! ROTFL!

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- Rocky -- 28 December 2011

KM can teach you how to make tasty hotdogs while you listen to who let the dogs out! MRL can teach you how to mix cement at a construction site! GLV can teach you how to rip the students ...

Re: A linguisic note on that Chinglish stuff - "China in Zhuhai"...LOL -- Turnoi -- 29 November 2011

2.A teacher can serve as a university. Yeah, GLV Zhuhai University....LOL

Re: According to GLV Zhuhai, "British port city of Plymouth" and "University of Leeds, UK" are in th -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

Happy learning,kids!!! Laughing my ASS off!!!! Yes, I do as well. That's why I posted it.. And thank you for your contribution with these other quotes from that site! Even more fun....LOL

Re: According to GLV Zhuhai, "British port city of Plymouth" and "University of Leeds, UK" are in th -- Silverboy -- 28 November 2011

Yep, it is so pathetic! A rubbish school full of rubbish teachers, but we have know that for years. GLV, absolute garbage!

Re: According to GLV Zhuhai, "British port city of Plymouth" and "University of Leeds, UK" are in th -- Turnoi -- 28 November 2011

GLV, absolute garbage! Judged by their Chinglish site alone, for sure...LOL

Scam Agent -- CICG -- 26 November 2011

Kingsley Gyedu Darko of UNIGATE Education Limited, in Accra Ghana is an agent in Ghana that has defrauded parent and students of school fees, application fees, and visa processing fees. Please be ...

Re: Foshan and DongGuan Meten English Centre /Metro English -- RobertVC -- 24 November 2011

There is more about METEN here http://china.eslteachercafe.com/topic2030-review-on-meten-english-shenzhen-guangdong.aspx

Bill Stack - Beijing -- Brad -- 25 November 2011

Bill Stack's American owned school in Beijing - anyone had any experience? Opinions? Reviews?

Does anyone know anything about Nanhai dali Experimental Primary School -- Mark Wheeler -- 25 November 2011

Nanhai dali Experimental Primary School We have been talking with an English teacher there from Essex and a chinese gentleman and it seems really good. Can you provide me with any reviews. If you ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 24 November 2011

I used to work at EF, and had coworkers there that had worked at Wall Street before. I thought EF's educational standards were a little on the low side, but my coworkers who had worked at Wall ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 24 November 2011

To make a long story short: EF and Wall Street English both are the worst crappy training centres and pretend "schools" in China to work for, you [edited]

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 2 December 2011

To make a long story short: EF and Wall Street English both are the worst crappy training centres and pretend "schools" in China to work for, you [edited] Because.........

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 24 November 2011

I know one person who paid 30,000 yuan for one year of lessons at Wall Street, another paid close to 50,000. Seems that the name "Wall Street" allows for a facade of greater prestige, and the ability ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 26 November 2011

Exactly, this is what they do at Wall Street Chinglish! How do you know? Are you working there? Did they ask you to come on here and tell us all that? I am an insider, and I know everything about ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 24 November 2011

Its funny but I can't find a single post here from anyone bad mouthing Wall street who has actually worked there or gone as far as taking the time to investigate the company. Just thought I would ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 24 November 2011

So would anyone with first hand information like to add something to this pointless rambling and bickering or does it just continue with more of my mate Fred says so it must be true. Yes, I know you ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 26 November 2011

Just curious as to your requirements There is a well-defined set of requirements that, unlike in the case of China, are strictly enforced - we are an accredited college at tertiary level and ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 26 November 2011

So I take it you have worked there I take it then [edited]? You know everything about Wall street first hand then, don't you? Or are we just adding our repetitive two-penneth worth like you seem ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 26 November 2011

Correct! I know enough to recommend NOT to work there! I am glad you see it the same way..LOL You know everything about Wall street first hand then, don't you?

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 26 November 2011

So in other words no you haven't worked there, no you haven't investigated the place but still choose to comment just like you choose to comment on every school which has been posted about on ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 26 November 2011

Oh, I love grovelling weasels so much, and that is why in this exceptional case I care to reply: So in other words no you haven't worked there, no you haven't investigated the place but still ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Meredith -- 26 November 2011

That tells most people on here that I have been and am almost always right, and that I do my job completely. You've got an ego that is boundless. It's unbelievable how high and mighty you ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 27 November 2011

You've got an ego that is boundless. It's unbelievable how high and mighty you come across in your posts. Well, you should perhaps have read the tone of irony and sarcasm between especially ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 26 November 2011

@ Meredith: It would be wise not to heckle Turnoi as he has a reputable standing on these boards. What have you contributed to help others? Turnoi has advised/helped me in the past personally, and ...

Re: Wall Street English -- miffed -- 24 November 2011

If you are going to engage in such a lengthy discussion, then FYI, it usually helps if you have some kind of foundation for your opinion as opposed to speculation, assumption and ignorance. Correct! ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Desmond -- 25 November 2011

'If you are going to engage in such a lengthy discussion, then FYI, it usually helps if you have some kind of foundation for your opinion as opposed to speculation, assumption and ignorance.' ...

Re: Wall Street English -- San Migs -- 26 November 2011

Like me, they feel that money isn't by any means everything, and much prefer working considerably fewer hours under much less pressure with much more job security in the public sector, though of ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Silverboy -- 26 November 2011

Wow, I could not agree more with those points from one to six: They are all true, and I especially like that one about being stared at like a goldfish by members of the public. I also don't want ...

Re: Wall Street English -- John -- 26 November 2011

1) I do not wish to teach in the evenings nor on weekends. 2) I realize that teaching at training centers is much less secure jobwise than teaching in the public sector, or even at a private ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 26 November 2011

Wrong, we know everything about WALL STREET CHINGLISH! Shows you have not done your homework as to the job security and promotion prospects at WSE.

Re: Wall Street English -- Dragonized -- 26 November 2011

Wall Street Chinglish has picked up none of the free thinking, entrepreneural, and leadership skills that wall street firm were known for in the past but everything bad that these same firms ...

Re: Wall Street English -- Turnoi -- 26 November 2011

Indeed, that is enough to know to say: DO NOT EVER WORK THERE! Wall Street Chinglish has picked up ... everything bad that these same firms practiced including lying, cheating, theft, and the ...

Web International Shanghai -- david -- 21 November 2011

Web international is a terrible school to work for,,you will be treated as a dog and chinese staff will hate you because you get paid more than them, the lesson plans are terrible, also they employ ...

Re: Web International Shanghai -- Turnoi -- 21 November 2011

Web international is a terrible school to work for,,you will be treated as a dog and chinese staff will hate you because you get paid more than them, You know, this rubbish Web International is just ...

Re: Web International Shanghai -- david -- 22 November 2011

also you will not get any health insurance , that is a lie and against the law in China

Re: Web International Shanghai -- Turnoi -- 22 November 2011

No health insurance? - You really need to beware of them, otherwise they might infect you with a disease called "Brain Aids". This disease has the special effect that the brain of the infected person ...

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- anon -- 20 November 2011

Excellent Union School in Shenyang cannot be trusted! As previous writers have said they mislead you, lie to you and go through teachers and staff quickly. DO NOT TRUST THEM! The headmaster seems ...

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2011

Excellent Union "School" of Lying! A rubbish business, I guess! Excellent Union School is excellent in lying only. http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?noframes;read=31619

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- anon -- 21 November 2011

I would just like to point out the women in the office and who prepare schedules etc. are really great and also have been lied to. they also quit after just a couple of months because of being ...

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- Turnoi -- 22 November 2011

I would just like to point out the women in the office and who prepare schedules etc. are really great and also have been lied to. they also quit after just a couple of months because of being ...

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- anon -- 22 November 2011

they were native Chinese

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- Turnoi -- 23 November 2011

Thanks for the info!

Re: Excellent Union School - Shenyang -- anonymouse -- 6 December 2011

In my short experience I would say that the best course of action is to stand up for yourself in such situations where a contract is not being honored. My contract stipulated a 5-day working week but ...

Re: TESOL Course - info@tesol.co.za - www.tesol.co.za -- withaak -- 20 November 2011

I have moderated Mark's Courses and they are the most coherent of the courses here in Cape Town. I have taught Tesol for 15 years in Taiwan, Vietnam and South Africa, Wits. He knows his stuff. If ...

Re: TESOL Course - info@tesol.co.za - www.tesol.co.za -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2011

I have moderated Mark's Courses and they are the most coherent of the courses here in Cape Town. I have taught Tesol for 15 years in Taiwan, Vietnam and South Africa, Wits. He knows his stuff. ...

Re: charts - "DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" -- Sanya resident -- 19 November 2011

Ah..if you call culverts still being installed and mud and gravel everywhere a finished road...what backward country are you from? As a resident of Sanya for the last 10 years I pass by the this ...

Re: charts - "DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" -- Silverboy -- 21 November 2011

Yep, I'll take your word for it! The OP is obviously a GW posting in favour of that place. You sound like you have good local knowledge, should have after 10 years. GW's always get caught out ...

Re: charts - "DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" -- Grammar Nazi -- 20 November 2011

with a not too a bad command

Re: charts - "DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" -- miffed -- 20 November 2011

Did/do you teach in this school? What do the road constructions got to do with the school? Just asking.

Re: charts - "DO NOT TEACH A QIONGZHOU UNIVERSITY HAINAN ISLAND" -- KarenB -- 14 January 2012

Road conditions are a pretty crucial concern because the university doesn't have on-campus housing. This means you have to live off-campus. When I was teaching out there -- the main road from ...

lauralinjing@yeah.net, Sunny, Chinese recruiter -- Gary -- 19 November 2011

Foreign teachers beed to be aware of the above email address. Her name is Sunny and her email is lauralinjing@yeah.net This is a fake company and they only want to collect peoples documents to offer ...

Re: lauralinjing@yeah.net, Sunny, Chinese recruiter -- The Enlightened One -- 20 November 2011

Why is it when you find someone named "Sunny" or "Sunshine" etc... they are usually anything but? Maybe the intent of the name is to blind you with their rays of deceit and burn you with their ...

Re: lauralinjing@yeah.net, Sunny, Chinese recruiter -- Turnoi -- 22 November 2011

It's the everlasting sunshine of cheat and crookish business, I guess! Why is it when you find someone named "Sunny" or "Sunshine" etc... they are usually anything but? Maybe the intent of the ...

Re: lauralinjing@yeah.net, Sunny, Chinese recruiter -- Gary -- 19 November 2011

I think I should point out additional information about the above named girl. Her name as I said is Sunny and she is a fake Chinese recruiter. Today she sent me a message to my phone and called me ...

Re: naei-edu.org -- T. A. -- 18 November 2011

Hey Alison, The advert is not a scam. I've worked with these guys (NAEI). The organization is very real and delivers all promised. Do your homework well before painting an organization bad. If ...

Re: naei-edu.org -- anon -- 28 December 2011

Hi. Naei should be avoided if you can. They do not give everything promised. I worked for them and they tried getting out of every little thing that was in the contract. These guys are only ...

Re: ALIFA Sushan English/Shenyang China -- Joanne -- 17 November 2011

I have just finished my contract with ALIFA SUSHAN English school. Your comments about the director made me think twice before coming, but just to let you know, I had a good experience. Perhaps it is ...

METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Meten Teacher -- 17 November 2011

Good-day mates. First, I would recommend you to never work at this school, oops I didn't mean school nor Training center. I met a company, yes a company. It looks like a school, feels like a ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Irishy -- 21 November 2011

Well after working at Meten for 2 long hard years I can say get a job teaching kids at a kindergarten you will work less and have less stress. All they do is try to find something bad with the ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Now is the winter of our discontent -- 7 December 2011

Ignoring the racial debates and so forth, I also worked in Meten English before. I actually very much enjoyed my brief time there, but I did definitely notice a lot of internal communication problems ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Silverboy -- 8 December 2011

It is always better for an FT to work at a public university or college. There is no heirarchy, teachers have flexibilty to teach in the way they know is suitable for their students. At training ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Now is the winter of our discontent -- 12 December 2011

It is always better for an FT to work at a public university or college. There is no heirarchy, teachers have flexibilty to teach in the way they know is suitable for their students. At training ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 10 December 2011

I doubt that there are any "smart people" at Meten, that is really a rubbish statement for you to make @Silverboy: Mate,that is a typical GW sellout statement. I listened to crap for years in the UK ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 7 December 2011

Could someone elaborate exactly how they have been wronged by Meten? I think one thing I read about them is that they asked foreign teachers to perform as white monkeys in a muppet show. A rubbish ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- heebie jeebies -- 22 November 2011

Stay a way from them at all costs, all the rest are just as bad, better to work for a public school and university than any training center. Great advice. Readers, please don't any of you risk ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 22 November 2011

Very true indeed: Readers, please don't any of you risk it for a biscuit. ALL training centers in China must be avoided like the plague! They should be closed down and their owners put behind ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 22 November 2011

What a bunch of stupid lies by these idiots who run this Meten rubbish place? Teachers suffering there from AIDS? No, I would think these idiots were suffering from AIDS...in their stupid ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- notmyhandfeet -- 19 November 2011

Hi I have been reading this board for about a month now from the UK and have ambitions to come to Shenzhen to teach. Meten is a company I was looking forward to working for so I applied a few days ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 19 November 2011

So when you move on to a nicer school, will you have to re-apply for a new work visa and resident permit? I suggest you give METEN this rubbish place a big miss and do not work for them. You could ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Dragonized -- 17 November 2011

Wow there's a "teacher" there called STONE?? Does he/she want us to know how much difficulty he/she has with relieving himself/herself? Get some water for crying out loud! But it has been a while ...

STONE, not STONED...LOL -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

Wow there's a "teacher" there called STONE??

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

So the point is to let you all know that if you want to work at Meten, you MUST keep your score high,there will be days when your tired or sick and just can't get the energy to flow in a class, ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Silverboy -- 17 November 2011

Yes, a rubbish "school", but us oldtimers here in China have known that for years. The advice of the "Foxy" poster is well worth heading: Better to work at a public school in a backwater, or at least ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

TC's only care about getting white monkeys to act in a puppet ( or muppet show as Turnoi says! ) show, they don't care about anything, just get the money. Yes, it is well-known that these ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- foxy -- 17 November 2011

I think students' opinions carry far too much weight in China. Any foreign teacher can be history throughout the Chinese edu system because of this. Although teaching in more developed parts of ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

I think students' opinions carry far too much weight in China. It is because all these "schools" are businesses that want to keep their paying clients in terms of customer satisfaction. I ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 18 November 2011

Work only in the public sector in a backwater, the best way in my view. Employers there have far fewer options - that's great for us! I would agree...but also disagree. Why do they then need to ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- miffed -- 18 November 2011

Why do they then need to pay us 5,000 rmb a month when they can get a filipino for 4,000 rmb a month? I am a regular reader of this board. I am a Filipina. I just want to say: wouldn't it be nice ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- The Enlightened One -- 20 November 2011

Well guys, I think you are wrong to stereotype (the ones that are). I am a westerner and I have seen lots of westerners acting very immorally. Sleeping with students, taking on extra work without ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2011

That's the best input I have seen so far on this topic; it is very, very true! As far as teaching by foreign teachers in China is concerned, we are all in the same boat! My experience with ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- btdt -- 19 November 2011

".........wouldn't it be nice not to generalize when we post negative comments?" miffed Indeed it would. Putting aside perceptions, though, it may be more effective to simply state the facts. In ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2011

But lets keep in mind that, though there are a lot of unqualified EFL teachers in China and, though some of them have agendas that have nothing to do with teaching, there are many who have found a ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Dragonized -- 19 November 2011

We do not only criticize Filipinas, we criticize our own as well. The term Grovelling Weasel is used specifically for this purpose of exposing underqualified, amoral westerners who come for their own ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 18 November 2011

Sorry if my posting was construed that way! I have met many filipinas, and as people they are fun loving and I like them dearly. This is racism from chinese recruiters in the recruiting process!

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

To make it quite clear, I am vehemently opposed to differences in payment on ethnic grounds alone - a green face getting 5000 USD per month more because it's a green face. Instead, everybody ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Silverboy -- 19 November 2011

The problem is that many women from your country give you ALL a bad name. Another thing is that I feel many of you are just a bunch of try hards, and you come across as being "jiao heng" ( arrogant ) ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Jason -- 20 November 2011

If you want to check out the quality of some Philippines women, take a look at the DIA dating site. Truly atrocious quality of women on that site. I took a look, and, like you, I was appalled! By ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- miffed -- 19 November 2011

You are entitled to your own opinion. If you felt arrogance in my post, the I say, that wasn't my intention. I was just merely trying to compare things, and the feeling of being better than ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Silverboy -- 20 November 2011

Well, I think I should judge them. Take a look at some of the Philippine women on dating sites: A white guy writes to one of them, within half an hour there will be some sob story about how difficult ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 20 November 2011

She won't listen to you mate. She is high and lofty in that she is better than you and me in every respect, and she won't be brought down. My comment about sending money home stands, I have ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- miffed -- 20 November 2011

Go on man, go on...let all those bitterness out. Feeling much better now? I do hope so.

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Ryan -- 19 November 2011

Pertinent and accurate, as usual Silverboy. The worst of it is that many greedy Filipinas on the mainland of China are stealing jobs that would otherwise be available to foreign native speakers of ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- miffed -- 19 November 2011

The worst of it is that many Filipinas on the mainland of China are stealing jobs that would otherwise be available to foreign native speakers of English. Oh dearie, bad Filipinas,right? But hey, ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 19 November 2011

As for Filipinas going to Hongkong to shop for signature clothers and everything, that's their own business, not yours. I think so, too. But I had been much worse than "those Filipinas", I was ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- miffed -- 20 November 2011

Just please be careful with those who mind other people's business on here. Nice day!

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 21 November 2011

Just please be careful with those who mind other people's business on here. To be quite honest with you, those people you are referring to are quite good, hard-working, well-qualified and honest ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 19 November 2011

As for Filipinas going to Hongkong to shop for signature clothers and everything, that's their own business, not yours. You are wrong again. It is our business! Claiming poverty while wiring home ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- miffed -- 20 November 2011

Who puts him/herself on a pedestal?????? Geezzzzz....is all that I can say.

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 19 November 2011

The worst of it is that many greedy Filipinas on the mainland of China are stealing jobs that would otherwise be available to foreign native speakers of English. Sorry, I do not think they are ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 19 November 2011

Too many Western grovelling weasels in China, and I don't need any of them! Have you been in the piano bar in nairobi again? Calm down. What's wrong with being a westerner in China? Far FAR ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 19 November 2011

What's wrong with being a westerner in China? There is nothing wrong with it. I once had been as well. But I had never been a grovelling weasel, have cared about my colleagues and have never ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 27 November 2011

everyone has got the same rights (and obligations), and someone like Ryan complaining that Philippine teachers take his job is either racism, pure greed and meanness, or both Indeed! And with that ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 20 November 2011

Far FAR safer than being a westerner in Kenya, and that is a clear and true and undisputable FACT! yes, FACT! http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16067471 I feel sorry for the victims but ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Oldtimer -- 19 November 2011

Too many Western grovelling weasels in China, and I don't need any of them! Right as rain, man! I have tried to work out why this is so. My theory is it's on account of modern Chinese ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- V J -- 19 November 2011

But in China you cannot be totally secure in your job if you're not teaching well. Average teachers are fired frequently a month or two into their contracts, leaving them out of pocket as a ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Dragonized -- 20 November 2011

The best teachers of English in China would be the now grown-up children of Chinese expats in Western countries whose mother tongue is English, but who can speak standard Chinese well. Incredibly, ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Silverboy -- 19 November 2011

I would also agree with that. They stupidly think that HK is some paradise, when most people who have even been there only once know it is nothing of the sort. As for buying designer clothes and ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- droc -- 7 December 2011

Silverboy, Have you worked for Meten in Wuhan? Or have you at least worked for Meten or in Wuhan, one or the other? I've just been offered a position at Meten's branch in Hankou, Wuhan. ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Swerve -- 24 November 2011

Just FYI. Jason B, as mentioned in the OP, is Canadian not American. That is all. Thanks

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Bobby -- 24 November 2011

Yes Jason Stuart B[edited] is NOT an American, a man with his limited education background could never be an American. He's a Canadian. Here is more information on Meten, Its a decent review.

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- Turnoi -- 25 November 2011

I am far from defending any Western grovelling weasel in China, and I am also far from praising American or Canadian education systems for its excellent standards. But I am wondering what ...

Re: METEN / Review on "Meten English", Shenzhen, Guangdong -- San Migs -- 25 November 2011

they would not even have a chance of employment at a school like ours in Kenya. Just curious as to your requirements?

Hubei province -- Elisa -- 17 November 2011

Please could anyone give me some information regarding the following: I am suppose to start a new job in Hubei province in China in a few weeks. I am still in the UK and my employer has obtained for ...

Re: Hubei province -- Turnoi -- 17 November 2011

No, your employer can't prevent you from getting another job in China in the future. Evidently, your employer had some expenses to get the paperwork done for you. You should perhaps be fair and ...

Re: Hubei province -- Elisa -- 18 November 2011

Dear Turnoi, Thank you so much for your quick reply. It is good news. I have noticed that you help a lot of people on this forum, your input is very valuable to some of us. If I may, I would like to ...

Re: Hubei province -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

If I may, I would like to ask you another question regarding the work permit. When the employer offered me the job they send me a "sample contract", that is how they called it, explaining that it was ...

Re: Hubei province -- btdt -- 17 November 2011

No, your future in China will not be affected in the slightest. Take it easy and give your Mom the care she needs and worry not. Schools with a legitimate license to hire foreigners, by the way, do ...

Re: Hubei province -- Turnoi -- 18 November 2011

Schools with a legitimate license to hire foreigners, by the way, do not provide you with a work permit. That's true. But it is a bit confusing because the administrative procedures for the ...

Re: Hubei province -- Elisa -- 18 November 2011

Thank you very much for your reply. It is a relief. If I may I would like to ask you another question. Could you tell me if you know anything about "sample contract" from the government? The school ...

Re: Beijing CAU Net Development Co., Ltd., Beijing -- Cornelia Bade-Governale -- 15 November 2011

Hi everybody who has to say something about Cau-edu.net! First of all, if somebody puts information on the web, it would be nice that this person has tried to be informed about what he/she is ...

Re: Beijing CAU Net Development Co., Ltd., Beijing -- Turnoi -- 16 November 2011

I don't know what you are talking about - Lies? Look here: http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?noframes;read=39282 A German lady by the name of Ina Seebauer posted a complaint ...

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- Iconkiller -- 14 November 2011

Has anyone found out anything about the foreign teacher who was murdered?

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- Smoke&Shadows -- 29 December 2011

I heard his name was Robert, an austrailian....

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- Smoke&Shadows -- 15 November 2011

There was a story told to me by two teachers,a married couple. They told me two teachers had been "murdered"... Their story was far from the facts on location and the college name... First: teacher ...

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- JackWu -- 14 November 2011

The Guy had some visa issues in his life that were documented in His private Diary found in the apartment. He was drunk and was shouting loudly and the Police were called as residents were concerned ...

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2011

This case reminds me of the death of poor Darren Russell in 2005, an English teacher who it is claimed was killed by his school. This is another case of a teacher dying under suspicious ...

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- Owl -- 15 November 2011

Turnoi: What was the name of the school where the American teacher who got killed a few years ago was working?

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2011

Sorry, I do not remember. Just google the name "Darren + family name". If I remember correctly, it must have been a private "school" (training centre or something like that) in Guangdong Province. I ...

Re: Murder of a foreign teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College? -- San Migs -- 15 November 2011

I don't remember the name of the school, but I do recall he was being overworked and got sick. Sounded like one of those dodgy farm you out operations. The owner of the school maintains he was a ...

Re: Giraffe English Language School - Haikou -- Mark Bowman -- 14 November 2011

So, still talking about the Sunlight kindergarten in Fu'an. Ningde sunlight kindergarten (same owners) was good and i enjoyed it on the whole.. dont have any problems with that kindergarten. ...

Re: Giraffe English Language School - Haikou -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2011

i would like to feel that i am being treated well and to be honest with you, i just dont feel well treated here. Well, I am with you in this, and I would add that a "school" with an animal name like ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Chris -- 14 November 2011

On the spot,Ray! Indeed,the trainer cum recruitment manager of GLV,Zhuhai, has no education, but yes,she does have talent when it comes to singing, shaking her booty and selling hotdogs.So many ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

Imagine a former hotdog vendor working as a trainer,teacher,adviser, etc Compared to all these bosses who primarily are businessmen and know a lot about tomatoes and apples but nothing about ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- San Migs -- 14 November 2011

can hotdogs whisper like a Mongolian pony? And what about the Eshekler donkey?

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

And what about the Eshekler donkey? The answer may be given by the "teacher", a former hotdog vendor (with a fake degree that that person bought in a well-known street in Bangkok) at GLV in Zhuhai, ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- San Migs -- 14 November 2011

(with a fake degree that that person bought in a well-known street in Bangkok) at GLV in Zhuhai, where only the best of the best Western teachers work!...LOL ROFLMAO. As an aside, it would be ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2011

As an aside, it would be interesting if the Chinese required notarized degrees like in South Korea? Currently, they do not require notarized degree documents, and according to the current system, ...

GLV, Zhuhai -- BB -- 16 November 2011

You need the following qualifications in order to secure a job at GLV: 1.White/Alien face 2.NO degree 3.NO school certificate either 4.Ability to get fake degree/docs from your country as and when ...

Re: GLV, Zhuhai -- Turnoi -- 16 November 2011

That's the right place for my crocodiles, they would fully qualify and they need a job urgently. Could you please help me to place them there?...LOL You need the following qualifications in order ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- SJZ -- 13 November 2011

I wish that guy named, Intrested would shut up. Hes ruining this treads topic.

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

I wish that guy named, Intrested would shut up. Hes ruining this treads topic. Indeed, I couldn't have said it better. Will our dreams ever come true? Only time can tell...LOL

Re: Shanghai United International School -- Union jack -- 12 November 2011

I am an x- teacher at this school and know for a fact that a bunch of teachers in this school do drugs. Also I know of one or two that are alcoholics. This school was a disgrace and I feel like I ...

Re: Shanghai United International School -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2011

Hong needs to go as all she adds to the school is her communist style of leadership. I guess she must at least be an intelligent lady because she can read and write, and in China, that means ...

Re: Shanghai United International School -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

Oh, really? Do they perhaps believe in the following proverb: "A bit of pot every day keeps entropy away"? Is it really such a horrible place that they couldn't do without alcohol or drugs? ...

Re: Shanghai United International School -- Luc -- 24 November 2011

So WHICH school do you go to in Shanghai for decent and somewhat affordable bi-lingual education in an international environment?

Re: Shanghai United International School -- Turnoi -- 24 November 2011

Well, I don't know in this case I no longer have any kids to send to send to any school because they all have grown up and have kids themselves, and there is no need for them to look for an ...

Re: Beware of people who call themselves AIEP in Beijing (nothing to do with AIEP) -- cindy crawly -- 11 November 2011

I am really overwhelmed by these chinese illegal recruiters. They are working in the Government offices in Beijing and calling me and asking for a fee? When I called the office which he claimed he ...

Re: Beware of people who call themselves AIEP in Beijing (nothing to do with AIEP) -- Turnoi -- 11 November 2011

He was invisible before and now he is asking me for a fee? Corrupt official pretending to be a wonna-be recruiter, I guess. Please try my own C.R.A.P & F.R.A.U.D. Agency, we are much better than ...

Re: Beware of people who call themselves AIEP in Beijing (nothing to do with AIEP) -- San Migs -- 11 November 2011

I am waiting to hear wowza next! Are you not a manager of a college in Kenya?

E Discovery Bangkok -- Farg Smith -- 10 November 2011

Never work for this outfit. Numerous teachers have been let go during their dictatorship. They never stand up for the teacher when the school wants to get rid of them-they just keep opening and ...

Re: E Discovery Bangkok -- Turnoi -- 11 November 2011

Well, it is a business, what else could you expect? The only conclusion is: never work for any of them. As simple as that.

CED Pro -- Sandy -- 11 November 2011

Does anyone know about a job agent company calling them selfs, CED Pro (http://www.cedpro.org) the ladys name is Amy.Im wanting to teach in china but after reading this message board Im a bit ...

Re: CED Pro -- Turnoi -- 11 November 2011

Never heard of that company, but after checking out their site and some of the jobs they have on offer, I would be very wary regarding the schools or "schools" they are working with. Pretty standard ...

sis - singapore school - busan, s korea -- barley prendergast -- 10 November 2011

SIS =- Singapore Internationl School –yeongdo island, Busan city. school was started in august 2010. On teacher left I finish a contract – didn’t receive his 700 000krw pay. (January 2011 ...

Re: sis - singapore school - busan, s korea -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2011

School opened another two schools in gimhae and north pusan went bankrupt. The teachers didn’t get all their pay and were fired as there were no student. Messed-up and incompetent management, a ...

Re: This is a broad ranging 10-month salary scam across China -- Silverboy -- 9 November 2011

Well, I missed this one! Whether or not you are a real teacher or not is debatable. I would hardly call a GAC teacher ( a scam anyway ) or IELTS teacher a professional teacher. They just follow a ...

Re: This is a broad ranging 10-month salary scam across China -- San Migs -- 9 November 2011

20,000rmb a month is nothing when converted to USD or AUD, and it will go nowhere in a city like Sydney or London, or even "new world cities" like Brisbane or Perth. I would agree. I knew this one ...

Re: This is a broad ranging 10-month salary scam across China -- Dragonized -- 10 November 2011

I have met individuals in the gulf who have saved up well beyond three times the amount of 10,000 rmb! You couldn't make me bat an eye if you had told me you saved up 40,000 rmb's! A real ...

Re: This is a broad ranging 10-month salary scam across China -- San Migs -- 10 November 2011

Not me personally. Go back and read my posting again. Regards, San Migs

Re: This is a broad ranging 10-month salary scam across China -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2011

I informed that 10,000rmb equates to nothing in the uk, but he was living with his parents at the time. And had his flight back. For someone living in China permanently, it still may be a reasonable ...

who sets and what are the standards for being a real teacher"? -- Turnoi -- 9 November 2011

Well, I missed this one! Whether or not you are a real teacher or not is debatable. Yes, it is debatable, and not only in case of this individual poster. I am just wondering what point of orientation ...

Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Jacob -- 9 November 2011

This is a very polluted part of China. I am glad I researched this matter and have decided to stay away, from Shanxi province. I found a better place in China. A job agent tried to get me to come to ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Biology Teacher -- 16 November 2011

Of the people who have made comments on this thread, how many people have ever been to Shanxi, etc. I have stated that I have not been there. I wonder about this question, with many threads I have ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Enlightened One -- 17 November 2011

Just wanted to say that I have been to Taiyuan and have lived and taught in Shanxi for a number of years. I agree, the pollution is rampant and the things could be a lot better... HOWEVER, there is ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Kenneth -- 17 November 2011

I'm nearing the end of my second teaching gig, in Shandong, and will be glad to return to Shanxi, where my first gig took place. Shanxi people are good people, unlike the arrogant citizens of ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Raoul F. Duke -- 10 November 2011

Agreed. Shanxi is probably my least favorite area of China. Personally, I believe that if they were going to give China an enema, they would stick the nozzle in Taiyuan.

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- San Migs -- 11 November 2011

Aren't you from Mexico? Or Texas?

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Raoul F. Duke -- 19 November 2011

Aren't you from Mexico? Or Texas? No, wrong on both counts. And I seriously resent the implication that I might be from Texas. ;-{)

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Old Tefler -- 11 November 2011

But Shanxi province is a haven for Western retirees - they can get Z vias there, or be allowed to work without them via certain agents without fear of being punished for breaking China's visa ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Turnoi -- 11 November 2011

There are many Shanxi princesses there. I'll never regret having taught in Shanxi. I want to become king of Shanxi, so would it help if decided to marry one of the princesses - in case they ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- The Oracle -- 11 November 2011

I think Oldtefler meant 'any very attractive or outstanding woman' when he used the word 'princess' in that particular sentence. It doesn't necessarily mean what you have presumed ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Turnoi -- 11 November 2011

I think Oldtefler meant 'any very attractive or outstanding woman' when he used the word 'princess' in that particular sentence. Either way, I want to be the new Shanxi king and need ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Jacob -- 15 November 2011

Some in Shanxi are heavy handed and inventive with any government regulaitons of foreigners and of the local Chinese population. There are illiterate, uneducated, partisan government people who feel ...

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2011

Well, of course, that may be the reason for their relative backwardness... Now, will it all change when I become the king of that province? I am not sure as only time could tell...LOL

Re: Shanxi, Taiyuan, Jinzhong, Pingyao, Datong -- Biology Teacher -- 16 November 2011

To each his own. This is a good example of how a place in China is viewed differently by people with different objectives. I enjoy knowing about different sorts of provinces I suppose. I have never ...

Re: Korea "Hall of Shame" - third edition -- mrx -- 8 November 2011

YBM PART 2 This is in response to Paula who seems to have a problem with YBM, and all I can say is I completely agree. Why aren't more people upset by the system at YBM? First off, completely ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Baijiu Bob -- 8 November 2011

I found this one on Raoul's. This story sounds awful: http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3941.0 Anybody know how to get hold of this Leon Purvis guy? Title: Avoid ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- San Migs -- 8 November 2011

I am a real teacher: 2 BAs, an MA and an MFA. I am published I don't see how being published, has anything to do with being a real teacher. I don't see a PGCE listed under your ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Baijiu Bob -- 10 November 2011

PGCE are British creds. Ma lecturers teach on the college level where publication is an expected of both Ph.Ds and MFAs. I think that's what the quoted poser was trying to get across. You might ...

Counting till ten - velly, velly good education...LOL -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2011

Ma lecturers teach on the college level where publication is an expected of both Ph.Ds and MFAs. I think that's what the quoted poser was trying to get across. You might want to brush up on ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- San Migs -- 10 November 2011

You might want to brush up on educational standards and practices in other parts of the world. I would gather from your bombastic posting style, and apparent disdain for british educational ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Rodney -- 19 December 2011

Been here fora term now. Anyboddy what cant set a rat trap shuddent be teachin english in China. Right? Pumped the old bird a dozen times and all's okay. What more ye want? Gotta roof over ne ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- cunning linguist -- 19 December 2011

Any chance of an English translation?

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Turnoi -- 20 December 2011

We obviously need a qualified Chinese-English translator; the text below must be in a Chinese dialect that even I cannot understand...LOL Any chance of an English translation?

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- San Migs -- 19 December 2011

Anyboddy what cant set a rat trap shuddent be teachin english in China. Right? Pumped the old bird a dozen times and all's okay. What more ye want? Gotta roof over ne head and I'm priddy. ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Mitch -- 8 November 2011

Shoddy treatment is never acceptable! But in China there are too many Western losers who are happy to accept it. And I blame them not for that. You may ask why. OK, I'll tell you why; in my ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Dragonized -- 8 November 2011

They shytty attitude of these western losers makes life hard for the rest of us who just try to live life and make a living on our own terms. That's why we must continue to expose these people ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Turnoi -- 9 November 2011

Western losers working in cahoots with crooks/criminals in china is pretty widespread, but there are plenty of ppl who will cause trouble (I being one of them) for these troublemakers! These Western ...

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- Dragonized -- 10 November 2011

Yes, meeting some of these GW's you really wonder if their mothers dropped them on their heads when they were babies!

Re: Avoid Yangzhou College of Environment and Resources -- San Migs -- 8 November 2011

in my opinion it's because the bottom line here is 'work' parttime for a fulltime salary, local of course. And when I say 'work' I mean speak standard English that is of the ...

Korea Global Connections -- Raymond Hopkins -- 7 November 2011

I try to avoid using the basis of race as a reason why I get passed over for or why I don't get something, but in this case I can't deny that it was a chief factor in why I wasn't ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Interested -- 6 November 2011

I've been in touch with people I know at GDOU and they swear they have no idea who the OP is or what she is talking about. I'm definitely not saying GDOU is either good or bad just that the ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2011

How can we be sure that you and /or your sources can be trusted? I'm definitely not saying GDOU is either good or bad just that the OP can not be trusted.

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Miss Shawnie Shaw -- 7 November 2011

REPLY To: intrested I see one of the of the GDOU administration officers cought some wind of this posting~ refering to the name (Intrested)... EVERYTHING I SAID ON HERE IS THE TRUTH ABOUT GDOU. ...

"Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2011

When reading the INTERESTED poster's input on "Ocean something University", I am smelling a rat: That poster does not say who he/she really is and what his/he relation is with this school. He/she ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Interested -- 11 November 2011

Why do some people (I'll be civil and not name names) always jump in on every thread and talk about things they know little or nothing about? I tried to be polite here but I guess that was a ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Smoke&Shadows -- 12 November 2011

Intrested,YOU AGAIN? your point is?... INTRESTED,Your just a 1st base runner.Sit on the bench and listen up we're going major league; Are you swinging at a pitch near home plate in order to avoid ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Hardly a lackey -- 12 November 2011

I have absolutely nothing to hide. Let her go ahead and copy and paste anything she wants. (Note that I spell "paste" correctly.) I've no idea what this person is up to. Let her reveal her real ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

(Note that I spell "paste" correctly.) Oh, how wonderful, that makes you an excellent teacher of Chinglish. In the famous Oxford Dictionary published by Grovelling Weasels Company in 2011 (3rd ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

I have absolutely nothing to hide. I agree, you don't hide anything. The smear and gossip campaign you have started about another person who had only posted her experiences with No Water Ocean ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- San Migs -- 13 November 2011

Turnoi, do you believe that Interested/hardly a lackey is in fact a grovelling weasel for guangdong river crab ocean university? What would be his agenda? Just curious? In the pockets of the FAOs?

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

Turnoi, do you believe that Interested/hardly a lackey is in fact a grovelling weasel for guangdong river crab ocean university? What would be his agenda? Just curious? He has clearly stated that he ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- San Migs -- 14 November 2011

I have always smelled rats 10 miles away, and this is another one I would agree. But do you suspect the FAO of said no river ocean fishy university has his hand in this somehow? He too has been ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

But do you suspect the FAO of said no river ocean fishy university has his hand in this somehow? No, I do not think so in this case. The FAO may not even be aware about the postings regarding GDOU on ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Interested -- 12 November 2011

What follows is the only QQ chat "Zhufu" and I ever had. I edited out the names of those who had no part in this. yoyo~zhufu 7:02:49 PM Hello? Replyyoyo~zhufu 7:04:30 PM did you know the (edited) ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Miss Shawnie Shaw -- 14 November 2011

Intrested, OH! I mean Christopher Davies~ Your accounts and actions of information or facts will sum up your recognized achievements for your poor performance as a man and an AMERICAN working in ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Sandy -- 14 November 2011

OMG! so he went bombastic because his fetish got revealed on his blogs pictures? I have heard Chinese people arent aware of those gender things and it hardly gets noticed. Many of your words require ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- San Migs -- 14 November 2011

Your accounts and actions of information or facts will sum up your recognized achievements for your poor performance as a man and an AMERICAN working in China. I disclose a list of which you ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Miss Shawnie Shaw -- 15 November 2011

Tread? I am sure you mean "thread". Hate to be a vocabulary nazi, I got some sleep~ hey Im not the only one whos spelling Tread and Thread wrong. But of course who wouldnt love a vocabulary nazi ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 15 November 2011

Good evening from Kenya, Mrs. Shaw! I have a request that you please reply to the San Mig poster in a more reasonable manner. Up to now, I have been defending you against this grovelling weasel named ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Miss Shawnie Shaw -- 14 November 2011

I dont see anywhere where I said I perceived him as a gay, or even used the word gay.. And as to me having "sexual Issues" as you stated, YOUR RIGHT! I do take an opposing point of view when a mans ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- San Migs -- 14 November 2011

And as to me having "sexual Issues" as you stated, YOUR RIGHT! Calm down! Go back to bed, and sleep it off... When have I ever said you have sexual issues? I just don't understand your hatred of ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Smoke&Shadows -- 13 November 2011

okay, your call... I'll tell her, but its not the same conversation she has shown me... She will copy/paist "ALL THE CONVERSATION" just to make a dark hued somber old man happy Why did you ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Sandy -- 13 November 2011

I hope she posts their conversation. This is drama that cant be found in the local bar. As to that Miss Shawnie Shaw, "YOU GO GIRL"!!!GET THAT OLD GEEZER!!!!!

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

This is drama that cant be found in the local bar. How about calling this drama "Much Ado About Nothing"? Good old Shakespeare would definitely be delighted...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 14 November 2011

I dont know if its your literary contexts or just your everyday ways of thinking... My guess is that he has always been trying to grow bananas in Norway but went to China instead because the ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

And your point is what? Is it about Ocean No Water University or about Zhufu or whatever her name is? Rubbish!!!!

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

Intrested,YOU AGAIN? your point is?... After reading the rubbish this INTERESTED person has posted regarding the OP, I am sure that INTEREDSTED person has no valid point to make. Just spreading ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 12 November 2011

Why do some people (I'll be civil and not name names) always jump in on every thread and talk about things they know little or nothing about? In the first instance, you haven't said anything ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Hardly a lackey -- 12 November 2011

I had an internal debate as to whether I should even bother to respond to Turnoi's latest childish rant. It will never cease to amaze me that someone who has no problem hurling insults at anyone ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

You need to be told that you are talking irrelevant rubbish, man. And it is most likely not only me who dislikes your rant on another person here. Grow up and spare us your gossip! He has instead ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Smoke&Shadows -- 10 November 2011

I read this message board quite frequently since Ive began to be intrested in teaching for china colleges, and I must say this whole tread that Miss Shawnie Shaw posted definitely drew out the ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2011

I read this message board quite frequently since Ive began to be intrested in teaching for china colleges, and I must say this whole tread that Miss Shawnie Shaw posted definitely drew out the ...

Re: "Interested" - a GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University lackey? -- San Migs -- 10 November 2011

"White Monkeys acting as grovelling weasels in a muppet show" !...LOL ROFLMAO, sounds like dells english, does it not? Either way it raised a smile, cheers to the weekend T!

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 6 November 2011

I'm definitely not saying GDOU is either good or bad just that the OP can not be trusted. Maybe the OP can't be trusted. Maybe your sources at GDOU also can not be trusted. I certainly ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Interested -- 6 November 2011

The OP is a young, very young actually, woman who claims to be American. I found her on QQ and if the pictures she has posted really are her she appears to be early to mid 20's and Chinese though ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2011

What does it concern you? Are you working there or not? I agree that trusting anyone at GDOU is a tad foolhardy but this whole thing smells fishy to me for some reason.

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 7 November 2011

Turnoi, you will notice I posted also along the same lines as you. Why should we have to believe what the OP, Interested, says?

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Joker -- 7 November 2011

I agree that trusting anyone at GDOU is a tad foolhardy but this whole thing smells fishy to me for some reason. That reason being the university is an 'Ocean University'. So, it must be ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 7 November 2011

And one should be wary of saltwater crocs as well as sharks if one goes there...LOL! Yeah, LOL! Let me add that I suppose that there are also two-legged crocs teaching a this wonderful Ocean ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 7 November 2011

But would those be as according to you: Eshekler crocs Guangdong crocs Kenyan crocs

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 9 November 2011

But would those be as according to you: Eshekler crocs Guangdong crocs Kenyan crocs In this case, I would opt for whispering Mongolian ponies with a donkey's head; some of them are teaching ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 9 November 2011

I would opt for whispering Mongolian ponies with a donkey's head What about a pony with a zebra's head?

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Turnoi -- 10 November 2011

I have never considered that option before. But thanks to to your genius mind, I have come to the conclusion that what you suggest may work as well. Please keep up the good work! Whisper whisper..LOL

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Dragonized -- 6 November 2011

Can we officially say that china attracts some of THE WORST expats in the world? Yes we can. Yet another example of no matter how much you copycat others and make yourself look prestigious if you ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- cunning linguist -- 6 November 2011

"The booze habits of eels? The rumor spreading of sea fungi? The deliberate backstabbing courtesy of barracudas? Or the craptastic organization by the crabs and shrimps..." Ha Ha. Like it!

Re: Gold Star Recruitment, China -- barry -- 6 November 2011

If you did not take the job, then how can you recommend them? You have no idea what the job was unless you actually worked for the company. In other words your recommendation is useless and smells ...

MK Centrum, in the Czech Republic -- Embittered ex-employee -- 6 November 2011

I worked for MK Centrum in the Czech Republic for almost two years. I was terminated, and the reason I was given was false. The school's owner complained that I didn't talk to him enough, and ...

Re: MK Centrum, in the Czech Republic -- Dragonized -- 6 November 2011

I have heard from teachers who have worked in the Czech Republic saying that country as being not very friendly. In fact there are supposedly many cases of theft and false promises given to expats ...

Re: MK Centrum, in the Czech Republic -- Turnoi -- 6 November 2011

The Czech Republic is an area with lots of rubbish "schools" not paying you enough and have you work on a freelance basis. Base pay per hour is about 225 Czech kronar in average, that is about 10 ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- Montezuma -- 6 November 2011

This was interesting to read because I was there at GDOU from January '08 to January '09 and my experience was remarkably similar. The other foreigners there were indeed quite difficult to ...

Re: GDOU, Guangdong Ocean University in Zhanjiang China -- San Migs -- 6 November 2011

Fortunately, Zhanjiang never really gets "cold". I would dispute that. I was there in February, and in Maoming, and it was certainly chilly, although granted not like Siberia or the UK. You are right ...

Re: n/a -- Turnoi -- 5 November 2011

Well, with your background I would say you still might need to educate yourself a bit and gain at least a TEFL cert. If you were willing to do that, I would say - yes, give it a try but do not expect ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Logic -- 5 November 2011

The hospital at Clifford is not that bad. I recently had a wonderful experience there with the birth of my first child. The staff were all extremely professional and did an excellent job. Top notch ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 5 November 2011

The issue is not whether you have had a "wonderful experience" at their hospital (do they really have a hospital?...how generous!..LOL); the issue is that this school or "school" is a business like ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Logic -- 11 November 2011

I am not sure I understand the point of your post. Clifford Hospital is good, at least in my experience. Clifford school is awesome! I am so tired of this stereotype that ESL is 'crappy'. ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Silverboy -- 12 November 2011

That ESL in Asia is "crappy" is not a stereotype, it is a FACT, and if you don't think so then obviously your knowledge of ESL is poor. I am pretty sure that a good teacher could go to Clifford ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Logic -- 16 November 2011

I respect your views, but honestly, you are way off base. Why would you think I am a 'lackey' simply because I have said I like Clifford School? By that reasoning, anyone who likes their job ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 16 November 2011

You don't have to agree with me, but at least come up with a logical argument instead of slinging pointless insults and spreading malicious inaccuracies. Oh, now I will spread a malicious ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- San Migs -- 13 November 2011

Please apply for a teaching job at a second tier public university in China: A REAL TEACHING JOB! I would agree. These lackeys defend the rubbish schools because it is their bread and butter. Most of ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Logic -- 16 November 2011

WOW! Talk about sweeping generalizations. I still respect your right to post such comments, but I highly doubt anyone is going to adhere to your line of reasoning. There is really no need for further ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 17 November 2011

I love working at Clifford School. Money is not the motivation. I am a teacher. I love teaching. This is what drives me to continue working at Clifford School. I have all the freedom in the world to ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- San Migs -- 18 November 2011

Well, for such a "job offer", I would not even stand up and leave my bed....LOL I would agree. Any school that has a name such as this is a rubbish school and to be avoided at all costs!

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Logic -- 17 November 2011

You are definitely right when you mention an appropriate salary for [your] hard work. I never said I am not paid well. Actually, I think my salary is very fair. I have been able to afford many ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- waltonsran -- 14 December 2011

OK...CLIFFORD HOSPITAL and CLIFFORD SCHOOL are under the same group ownership, however the hospital is not part of the school, nor is it to be considered stereotypical of other Chinese Hospitals, for ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 17 November 2011

I don't understand your fixation with regards to Clifford Hospital. Dear Logic, all the best in your future career at Clifford's. You actually mentioned the hospital as one of the main ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- San Migs -- 18 November 2011

To be honest, I never even knew there were sites like this with school reviews...I never even thought about it!! My main purpose was to post about my experience at Clifford Hospital. I see no point ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

These lackeys defend the rubbish schools because it is their bread and butter. At this Clifford place, I don't think they even teach. They are too busy seeing that excellent and famous hospital ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 13 November 2011

Maybe, the Logic poster thinks that because of the great hospital at Clifford, it is an excellent place. It is at least not logical to me - you see, SB, if a place is a hospital, and if it is a good ...

Re: Re Clifford School in Guangzhou, China -- Turnoi -- 11 November 2011

Your argument is weak, especially since you generalize a whole industry. Well, it's my view of the matter based on the point that an obvious positive experience like yours is not the rule but an ...

Re: n/a -- San Migs -- 5 November 2011

I know the economy sucks, and getting a job isn't an easy task by any stretch of the imagination. I hope you find what you're looking for. May I suggest paying around $500 and getting a TEFL ...

Re: n/a -- Dragonized -- 6 November 2011

You make some good points as well, I also think that it is very silly that gulf countries will require a masters degree to teach. In some places the students who you would be teaching aren't that ...